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Reggie - Competitors need to react to us, it was the right time for a new Nintendo console

"In the end, our competitors need to react to what we're doing in the marketplace and need to figure out what their innovation will be. It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers. They need to react to what we've done and we need to continue innovating with the Wii U and we will.

For us, launching new systems is about bringing new consumer experiences to the marketplace and we're doing that with Nintendo land and third-party publishers are doing it with games like ZombiU. For us, now is the right time to launch new hardware." - Reggie Fils-Aime


Strong words from Reggie there. We'll need more time to see if the Wii U is a big enough hit to influence what Sony/Microsoft do with future hardware.

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26 Nov 2012 18:15

Personally I think Nintendo should have released Wii U last year if not before. Wii has been dead ages and a longer lead ahead of the new Xbox/PS would have been good.

On the flip side, I'm happy to wait until 2014/15 before upgrading my Xbox...
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26 Nov 2012 18:28

FrenchFryGuy wrote:
robometal cowboy wrote:"It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers."


I can only speak for myself, but this is absolutely the case with me at this point. In fact, I immediately go into shutdown brain mode when people start talking about tech specs and all that BS which never has determined A) a console winner because the weakest console of the past three generations has won. and B) Some of the best gaming experiences have been on the weakest systems because developers have to work within their means to get more out of the system and the games usually end up being better for it rather than short-lengthed uninspired pieces of shiny sh!t.


Pretty much this.

It's time people start enjoying playing the games they want for 'themselves' and get over their graphics/power/specs obsession.
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26 Nov 2012 18:36

I think it's alright for Nintendo to sell Miiverse, the GamePad, and all the other things that the WiiU has to offer. But Reggie seems a bit on the offensive with this "they need to react to what we're doing" line. Oh and "pretty graphics and faster processors"... you shouldn't be talking about that Reggie.

First, do some fixin' with the OS. Then, show some more games. First or third party... without framerate issues in the latter case.
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26 Nov 2012 18:37

BanetheKira wrote:
mariomaniac45213 wrote:In the posisition Sony's in with the PS3 finally bringing in a profit last year but the failure that is Vita. I don't see them going "MAXXXIMMMMUUUMMMM POWWWWWEEEERRR!!!!!" again....so I think they have no choice to just slightly enhance the power and come out with their own sort of gimmick. I have a feeling Microsoft might go full power but we'll see.....




Believe it or not, but the Vita is actually selling... just a little more than it has been. I definitely would not call it a 'failure'.

I wouldn't say that it's "healthy and doing cartwheels" either. As far as I can see, The Vita seems like it's holding on for dear life at the moment. And with the 3DS apparently getting a price drop next week (which doesn't speak well of the health of that system either), it's only going to put Sony's handheld division under greater stress.
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26 Nov 2012 18:40

@FrenchFryGuy Nope. I'm right with you there man.

It'll be nice to see more gamers simply, well, playing games again. :)

Limitations [as the Wii has shown time and time again] bring out the creative best in some people [with others clearly not being able to hack it without a crutch - e.g. UE3 games using it to cookie-cutting alot of assets, hence a great deal of such HD games look quite similar, even across genres].

Can't see PS4/X-Box 8 not being MOAR POWER-focused - but who knows [maybe one of them have come back down to earth]?
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26 Nov 2012 18:56

monkeymagic wrote:Personally I think Nintendo should have released Wii U last year if not before. Wii has been dead ages and a longer lead ahead of the new Xbox/PS would have been good.

On the flip side, I'm happy to wait until 2014/15 before upgrading my Xbox...


Wii dead for ages? it just cleared 300K this month.
I think it still has a good bit of life with attractive bundles.
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26 Nov 2012 19:05

Shaanyboi wrote:
BanetheKira wrote:
mariomaniac45213 wrote:In the posisition Sony's in with the PS3 finally bringing in a profit last year but the failure that is Vita. I don't see them going "MAXXXIMMMMUUUMMMM POWWWWWEEEERRR!!!!!" again....so I think they have no choice to just slightly enhance the power and come out with their own sort of gimmick. I have a feeling Microsoft might go full power but we'll see.....




Believe it or not, but the Vita is actually selling... just a little more than it has been. I definitely would not call it a 'failure'.

I wouldn't say that it's "healthy and doing cartwheels" either. As far as I can see, The Vita seems like it's holding on for dear life at the moment. And with the 3DS apparently getting a price drop next week (which doesn't speak well of the health of that system either), it's only going to put Sony's handheld division under greater stress.


Where did you hear of a 3DS price cut next week?????
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26 Nov 2012 19:15

Its RUMORED to be dropping permanently to $139.99 I wonder why this (If its true) is happening?
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26 Nov 2012 19:22

zyxion1 wrote:Its RUMORED to be dropping permanently to $139.99 I wonder why this (If its true) is happening?

Because the 3DS doesnt sell very well in this continent perhaps?
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26 Nov 2012 19:57

@ddddd

More likely that they want the 3DS XL to become the "deluxe" and preferred model and the standard 3DS will become the entry level model for more budget minded consumers would be my guess. The 3DS is not doing badly at all.

It's not in desperate need of this despite want some people want to assume. This has market strategy written all over it. Maybe Nintendo knows something about Sony's pricing plans with the Vita that we don't yet.
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26 Nov 2012 20:34

So this is Reggie saying "COME AT ME, BROS!!" on behalf of Nintendo? :lol:
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26 Nov 2012 20:46

FrenchFryGuy wrote:@ddddd

More likely that they want the 3DS XL to become the "deluxe" and preferred model and the standard 3DS will become the entry level model for more budget minded consumers would be my guess. The 3DS is not doing badly at all.

It's not in desperate need of this despite want some people want to assume. This has market strategy written all over it. Maybe Nintendo knows something about Sony's pricing plans with the Vita that we don't yet.

Nintendo doesn't need to worry about Vita, it still has no big games like mario or AC, and it is still more expensive, even after the black friday price drops. This price drop (if real) more than likely has nothing to do with that platform.
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26 Nov 2012 21:22

@ddddd

You're missing the point I was making. The black Friday price drops were temporary and only lasted a day to a few hours at most. Sony may be giving the Vita a price drop in the coming days or weeks leading into the holidays that will narrow the price difference between the two platforms at the 3DS's current price and so maybe Nintendo is being proactive and dropping the price of the 3DS to keep the price gap between the two systems was all I was saying.

Either way, It certainly isn't because the 3DS is "oh knowz in trouble and failing."
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26 Nov 2012 21:32

So, Reggie, back to kicking ass and taking names, I see.
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26 Nov 2012 23:05

Reggie is on the offensive these days and I like it. The gaming media have written off Nintendo for far too long. It's all about innovation. Pretty graphics can only get you so far.
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26 Nov 2012 23:56

linkgx1 wrote:I still think it was a bit early for Nintendo, but DAMN!

At least one console is released a year apart from the rest every new gen. If it wasn't Nintendo, it would have been Sony or Microsoft.
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27 Nov 2012 00:40

I agree with him actually. PC's always will have better graphics and horse power and at this point, it's pretty easy to get the parts to put together a PC that can do everything the HD consoles do and much MUCH more for a decent price. Furthermore with services like Steam and GOG and still expanding and constantly improving mobile games market, it will be a tough sell for companies to just put out a system with more horsepower but nothing new.

Microsoft and Sony need to innovate big time.
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27 Nov 2012 01:10

Powerful words from Reggie and I mostly agree. Seeing him mentioning their Wii pad introduction games as strong launch games makes me hope they will have big HD reveals near the other console launches like metroid, mario, and other new IP's (but mostly metroid).
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27 Nov 2012 06:49

Oh, they will react...

Probably by offering machines with full built-in DVR capabilities, more powerful hardware, better integrated software and services with things like streaming full games directly from the cloud, superior online, possible built-in Sky/Cable type services, possibly cheaper pricing by offering phone type contract based payment methods...

So far, you have a nice new controller with cool touch-screen integration. Beyond that I really don't see the Wii U doing anything the competition need to be particularly worried about or respond to, Reggie.
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27 Nov 2012 09:21

Freeload wrote:Oh, they will react...

Probably by offering machines with full built-in DVR capabilities, more powerful hardware, better integrated software and services with things like streaming full games directly from the cloud, superior online, possible built-in Sky/Cable type services, possibly cheaper pricing by offering phone type contract based payment methods...

So far, you have a nice new controller with cool touch-screen integration. Beyond that I really don't see the Wii U doing anything the competition need to be particularly worried about or respond to, Reggie.


LOL

Maybe it's because I am 23, and, you know, maybe hitting some sort of culture lag here... but everything you just listed sounded like a bunch of garbled noise and features I'd never utilize and if that were their focus I'd never drop a dime on those consoles.

Bring me the prettier graphics, and sure, I'm there (they will, and I will be). Cable? Cloud? DVR? W.T.F. Those aren't screaming "BUY ME" right now save for technophiles who need every device to be a swiss army knife of technological capabilities to validate their existence. The minute you even bring up "phone type contract based payment methods" my **** shrivels up and crawls back inside of me. There are people who WANT these things bad enough they'd pay $400-600? ...Why? If that's their emphasis I'll wait for them to crash and burn and save my cash. You can have these things, but if that is their form of reacting and appealing to a mass market then they'll be doomed. You need novelty. Graphics are novelty. Controllers are novelty. They appeal to the senses. DVR is not novelty. Cloud streaming is not novelty.

Eh. C'est la vie.
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27 Nov 2012 10:03

The "reaction" will inevitably be trying their best to blatantly rip off Nintendo. Microsoft and Sony don't "do" innovation. They just take other's ideas and call them their own. Case in point: both companies acting as if they had invented the very idea of motion controls, when both presented their peripherals at E3. :lol:
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27 Nov 2012 12:20

zombiedsz wrote:out of everything the Wii U offers, off Tv play is the game changer. its my favorite feature that gets the most use in my household ( i have to share the TV with my 4 kids) it really is a unique experience that everyone who buys a Wii U gets in one box, off the shelf, for a decent price. Sony already is attempting to shoe-horn in a similar experience with the Vita, but it is far from a complete experience since not everyone will buy both systems and developers are least likely to support something with a fractured userbase.

I couldnt disagree more. It wouldve been cool in tjw 80s but tofay its just an unnecessary feature. I mean really, who among us doesnt have several TV's? I live by myself and I have 3. My parents have 5 at their house. Competition for the tv just isnt the "issue" it was 30 or 40 years ago, and its just such a pointless feature today.

I do like using the pad to surf the net while I watch TV, but then again I could do that before with my phone.
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27 Nov 2012 18:08

Reggie kicking ass and taking names once again. You can totally count on Sony and Microsoft copying Nintendo for their next consoles. Hasn't there already been a picture floating around of a 360 controller with a screen in it? Just know that they'll both talk smack about Nintendo's innovations until they release their consoles with the exact same features.
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27 Nov 2012 18:22

keyz wrote:Reggie kicking ass and taking names once again. You can totally count on Sony and Microsoft copying Nintendo for their next consoles. Hasn't there already been a picture floating around of a 360 controller with a screen in it? Just know that they'll both talk smack about Nintendo's innovations until they release their consoles with the exact same features.

And the same people talking crap about the Wii U gamepad now will act like it's the greatest thing ever when Sony/MS copy it.

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