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Today's Nintendo trolling comes courtesy of GameSpot

I have nothing against those that have different opinions from mine. As long as those opinions are backed by facts and well thought-out ideas, I am all for it. Unfortunately, I don't find that to be the case with GameSpot's latest Wii U feature. Check out how the article starts. Maybe I'm just reading it the wrong way.

Is Nintendo Trapped by Its Legacy? Tom Mc Shea explains why Nintendo's latest game announcements fail to muster much excitement.

What corner of the internet was Mr. Mc Shea looking at? Where did he see a lack of excitement? I felt the overall impression was that of excitement! Many were impressed with Nintendo's presentation for this Nintendo Direct.

What can be done with Mario Kart that we haven't seen before? Why should we trust Aonuma's claim that he's going to reinvent Zelda when he has failed to do so in every attempt thus far? Does a new Smash Bros. have much appeal beyond the requisite roster update?

Why wait to see if Nintendo will make good on their promises when we can just bash them at the start? Time to put down these announcements, especially the ones that haven't even had a single screen or specific detail attached to them. Why trust that Nintendo will make high quality experiences and evolve franchises? It's not like they've built up established, world-class brands that continue to garner year-topping review scores and big sales. Oh wait...

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25 Jan 2013 12:11

tdub154420 wrote:
BlueRangerVegeta wrote:
Autosaver wrote:This is the same guy that gave Skyward Sword a 7.5 for apparent "bad controls" and "predictable formula". LOL

Especially when you have a joystick just sitting there and getting no use at all.


Do you know what the Wii is dumbass?

Let's keep it civil, huh? He's just saying that certain actions would have been better suited to the analog stick instead of motion controls. I enjoyed the flying controls, but I can see his point, some of the motion controls (bomb rolling comes to my mind) felt unreliable or clunky at times. Just because they can doesn't mean they should.
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25 Jan 2013 12:15

MasterofMonster wrote:I thought the controlls for flying was great and very precise. ._. Same with the Sword Fighting. And unrelated, but I thought the controlls for Kid Icarus Uprising were among the best I've played...

Oh well. If someone gives a game a bad score because he played it wrong, and then refused to change the score even after he was told he did it wrong, then I can't possibly take that person's articles as serious.

Swordplay and bows and arrows handles like a dream I had problems with the flying sky diving and swimming I could get where I needed to go but those controls were nowhere near accurate enough for combat or collecting items what was frustrating about it is that the joystick was right there unused and it would have made the game so much easier to control during these moments

I had no problems with Kid it caress controls either hey fantastic game to be sure
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25 Jan 2013 12:44

Look at all these lawless people! Very sad.

Gamespot? More like LAMEspot! Didn't even click the article cause I know it's gonna be failure!

Lolz @ tasteless, narrow-minded, non-gamer trolls who think the conference of Nintendo was anything less than exceptional. I'd like to see Sony or Microsoft try anything better. Shoot, they could have all their IPs presented and it wouldn't matter cause their IPs sucks so! Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101 and motherfreaking BAYONETTA 2 look maximum-dope and are games for REAL gamers who enjoy well-made games!

Fanboyism. What is fanboyism? It is petty excuse made by jealousy of victor (Nintendo) by losers, this is all.
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25 Jan 2013 12:55

Luigi's Mansion has online multiplayer, The Wii-U is getting two speed increases, Both versions of Smash Brothers will be at E3 along with Super Mario, Zelda, and Mario Kart, we got a Monolith trailer, HD Wind Waker, the first Yoshi game since '96, and a G**D*** Shin Megami Tensei/Fire Emblem crossover?

This comes after Skyward Sword, Luigi's Mansion 2, Kid Icarus - Uprising, Fire Emblem - Awakening, and a downright amazing eShop line up from both Nintendo and third parties? Guild 01 games localized and sold individually for great prices? Liberation Maiden? Pushmo, Crashmo, Ketzal's Corridors? Project X Zone is getting localized? Nintendo Show 3D every two weeks? A discount on games you already own on your Wii? GameBoy Advance titles coming to the eShop? ZombiU? Pandora's Tower? The Last Story? Xenoblade?

People are unhappy with this?! People are "fanboys" for being excited for games from the company that we grew up with? Whoa. I don't understand the hatred. This is a beautiful time to be a Nintendo fan if you ask me. New IP's through the roof, classic franchises coming back for more, and truly superb third party support.

Oh well. Nintendo games are tired, but bring on the Halo 5 and Uncharted 4 for Durango and Orbis, that's fine. Bring on the Next-Gen Call of Duty 9, Killzone whatever, God of War whatever, Gears of War whatever, Assassin's Creed whatever, it goes on and on. As long as it's not Nintendo, tired franchises are all fine and good.

I don't understand, but hey, this thread brought this beauty into the world so I'm grateful for it:

M1 wrote:
Bayonetta 2 is better off dead than being on stolen by Nintendo.

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Man, I wouldn't want to "being on stolen" by Nintendo either. :lol:
If you hate the exclusivity that much, the Bayonetta franchise simply doesn't need you, and you simply don't deserve to see a sequel happen (which you wouldn't be if Nintendo wasn't ready and willing to pay the game's bills.)
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25 Jan 2013 13:00

I just read that article this morning and found it to be a big steaming pile of nonsense. His main criticism is that Ninty isn't offering anything new by just releasing updated versions of old franchises, but that's far from the truth. And even if it were true, what about the games on the other platforms? You can bet Gamespot will give the next shooter or open-world game that graces xbox and playstation plenty of love, when in reality you are essentially just doing the same thing over and over again in each game. Oh, but in this shooter you can have cooler weapons, or "stealth" is involved...or this open world game is set out west. How original! Please...IT'S THE SAME GAMEPLAY.

The bias against Nintendo is really something. You have analysts clamoring for them to get out of the console business, while so-called gaming "journalists" dump on their software because they don't have Samus mowing down passersby in Liberty City yet, or Mario shooting up Bowser's castle with something other than flower power. There would be no video game business if it weren't for Nintendo, and their franchises have a consistent charm and quality few others can match. They're a joy to play, and Nintendo understands better than most how important that is. I'll take a new Mario and Zelda over everything else any day of the week, thank you very much.
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25 Jan 2013 13:35

Tork110 wrote:I agree with the Zelda sentiment. It would be nice if Zelda was once again groundbreaking, and not just another iteration of Ocarina of Time.


You know that Skyward was absolutely nothing like Ocarina, except maybe that it had Time Travel, right? In fact, the only Zelda to really be just another iteration of OoT would be Twilight, and even that had it's fairly drastic differences.
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25 Jan 2013 13:45

@ Hawk

Still creating scenarios that don't exist.

Yea, no. Why don't you actually try defending your intentions and refuting my points. I've seen yours, and other peoples posts time and again, and at the most tame of times your opinions are still often warped, ignorant and removed from the truth.
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25 Jan 2013 13:47

Windsor wrote:Luigi's Mansion has online multiplayer, The Wii-U is getting two speed increases, Both versions of Smash Brothers will be at E3 along with Super Mario, Zelda, and Mario Kart, we got a Monolith trailer, HD Wind Waker, the first Yoshi game since '96, and a G**D*** Shin Megami Tensei/Fire Emblem crossover?

This comes after Skyward Sword, Luigi's Mansion 2, Kid Icarus - Uprising, Fire Emblem - Awakening, and a downright amazing eShop line up from both Nintendo and third parties? Guild 01 games localized and sold individually for great prices? Liberation Maiden? Pushmo, Crashmo, Ketzal's Corridors? Project X Zone is getting localized? Nintendo Show 3D every two weeks? A discount on games you already own on your Wii? GameBoy Advance titles coming to the eShop? ZombiU? Pandora's Tower? The Last Story? Xenoblade?

People are unhappy with this?! People are "fanboys" for being excited for games from the company that we grew up with? Whoa. I don't understand the hatred. This is a beautiful time to be a Nintendo fan if you ask me. New IP's through the roof, classic franchises coming back for more, and truly superb third party support.

Oh well. Nintendo games are tired, but bring on the Halo 5 and Uncharted 4 for Durango and Orbis, that's fine. Bring on the Next-Gen Call of Duty 9, Killzone whatever, God of War whatever, Gears of War whatever, Assassin's Creed whatever, it goes on and on. As long as it's not Nintendo, tired franchises are all fine and good.

I don't understand, but hey, this thread brought this beauty into the world so I'm grateful for it:

M1 wrote:
Bayonetta 2 is better off dead than being on stolen by Nintendo.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Man, I wouldn't want to "being on stolen" by Nintendo either. :lol:
If you hate the exclusivity that much, the Bayonetta franchise simply doesn't need you, and you simply don't deserve to see a sequel happen (which you wouldn't be if Nintendo wasn't ready and willing to pay the game's bills.)


dude. you're my new best friend.
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25 Jan 2013 13:53

FadedAreWii wrote:
Tork110 wrote:I agree with the Zelda sentiment. It would be nice if Zelda was once again groundbreaking, and not just another iteration of Ocarina of Time.


You know that Skyward was absolutely nothing like Ocarina, except maybe that it had Time Travel, right? In fact, the only Zelda to really be just another iteration of OoT would be Twilight, and even that had it's fairly drastic differences.

To be honest I was very disturbed by what they said about Zelda yesterday, particularly "not wanting you to play by yourself". I think back to 4 Swords and how I was NEVER able to get more than a 2 player game going at anytime. I think back to NSMB and how, while fun for a party game, is hardly the core experience people tout it to be (especially in multiplayer mode). This IS NOT, under any circumstances, what I want for Zelda. 2 player modes like what we got in Phantom Hourglass is cool (when it comes with online), but keep that crap out of my main game.

Control issues and a couple graphical hiccups aside, Skyward Sword was a truely fantastic game. It's not like we are talking about yearly CoD or Assassin's Creed releases here. If they want to drastically "change things up" at such a fundamental level, then make it a new franchise. Don't try to fix what isn't broke. I am, for the most part, very happy with Zelda evolving the way it is, my only real complaint with the series as a whole being that I wish they'd do more to tie the games together continuitywise. Now that they've officialy established the timeline I hope that that becomes a reality as well.
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25 Jan 2013 14:33

M1 wrote:Bayonetta 2 is better off dead than being on stolen by Nintendo.


I missed this quote the first time around, but I'll post my reaction in GIF form anyways:
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25 Jan 2013 14:54

This picture pretty much sums up my thoughts on this article.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4797/rehash2.jpg
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25 Jan 2013 15:08

kdognumba1 wrote:This picture pretty much sums up my thoughts on this article.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4797/rehash2.jpg


I approve on this.
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25 Jan 2013 15:16

kdognumba1 wrote:This picture pretty much sums up my thoughts on this article.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4797/rehash2.jpg

This. This so much.
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25 Jan 2013 15:32

Whatever, gamespot is garbage.
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25 Jan 2013 15:33

That really is a great picture.
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25 Jan 2013 15:51

Holy cow. All of these replies.

And Skyward Sword is an iteration of Ocarina of Time, except Ocarina of Time didn't make me cringe whenever I heard a horn blow. Sword fighting got boring in a hurry. The only thing I enjoyed about that game was messing with the Item Check Girl's feelings. The rest of the time I was just going through the motions.

The series really needs to get its head out of 1998.

kdognumba1 wrote:This picture pretty much sums up my thoughts on this article.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4797/rehash2.jpg


:lol: This argument would mean something if Sony had the same third party problems that Nintendo has.
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25 Jan 2013 15:58

KingBroly wrote:
gatorboi352 wrote:@KingBroly

"- Metroid: Remember the last one? YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I WANT ANOTHER ONE, as long as it's not like that POS"

That just killed your entire rant. The one franchise that actually did go out on a limb and do something different, and your take on it is no worse off than the peoples takes on the other Nintendo franchises that this article quotes.

Other M was a solid title people. Get over it, and get over being butthurt there wasn't a Prime 4 instead.


And you shot down your counter-argument by assuming I hate Other M because it's not Prime 4. Good show...not. I hate Other M because it is mechanically counter-productive, the story is awful, presented worse, and forgets everything important about the series, both fictionally and structurally.


"the story is awful, presented worse, and forgets everything important about the series, both fictionally and structurally."

All opinion, no facts. Also, considering the creator of the series was hands on with the project, I'd say "and forgets everything important about the series, both fictionally and structurally" is just slightly off base. And like that other poster said, your 'POS' comment completely contradicts your "reveiw score" of a 7.
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25 Jan 2013 16:09

Tork110 wrote:Holy cow. All of these replies.

And Skyward Sword is an iteration of Ocarina of Time, except Ocarina of Time didn't make me cringe whenever I heard a horn blow. Sword fighting got boring in a hurry. The only thing I enjoyed about that game was messing with the Item Check Girl's feelings. The rest of the time I was just going through the motions.

The series really needs to get its head out of 1998.


!991* If people are going to criticize the newer games for taking elements from older games, at least get which game they originated in right.
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25 Jan 2013 16:17

I bet that when Mario 64 was announced, Mr. Mc Shea was like "What can be done with Mario that we haven't seen before?"
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25 Jan 2013 16:20

Hey, everyone, what's going on in h-

*stops*

*looks around*

*backs out of thread slowly*
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25 Jan 2013 16:28

I fear in the upcoming months, the user created miiverse communities announced during said Nintendo Direct( The same one that caused all this absurd arguing), will start looking like this thread here. Hopefully this is wrong, but Im not sure.
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25 Jan 2013 16:47

Triforce of the Gods wrote:
Tork110 wrote:Holy cow. All of these replies.

And Skyward Sword is an iteration of Ocarina of Time, except Ocarina of Time didn't make me cringe whenever I heard a horn blow. Sword fighting got boring in a hurry. The only thing I enjoyed about that game was messing with the Item Check Girl's feelings. The rest of the time I was just going through the motions.

The series really needs to get its head out of 1998.


!991* If people are going to criticize the newer games for taking elements from older games, at least get which game they originated in right.


You sound like me, circa 1999, until Majora's Mask came out and blew OoT away.

Majora's Mask tried something fresh with the formula. Why can't the later Zeldas try?
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25 Jan 2013 16:51

Tork110 wrote:
Triforce of the Gods wrote:
Tork110 wrote:Holy cow. All of these replies.

And Skyward Sword is an iteration of Ocarina of Time, except Ocarina of Time didn't make me cringe whenever I heard a horn blow. Sword fighting got boring in a hurry. The only thing I enjoyed about that game was messing with the Item Check Girl's feelings. The rest of the time I was just going through the motions.

The series really needs to get its head out of 1998.


!991* If people are going to criticize the newer games for taking elements from older games, at least get which game they originated in right.


You sound like me, circa 1999, until Majora's Mask came out and blew OoT away.

Majora's Mask tried something fresh with the formula. Why can't the later Zeldas try?

I'm not saying that the games shouldn't do that, I love MM so much more than OoT. I'm just saying, I get tired of people crying things like "TP is OoT 2.0" and praising OoT for it's huge breakthrough when by their logic it was ALttP 3D.
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25 Jan 2013 17:04

Well, it's not easy to think up something new and original.

And it's not just Nintendo making the same games as before...

This thread makes me sad. Especially those who have doubts towards Nintendo.

Spoiler:
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M1 wrote:
kernal wrote:@M1

I appreciate what you do here... never change!

What it is it I do?


be the best you you can be!

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25 Jan 2013 17:28

I've seen enough. Re-locking.

Reposting from earlier in the discussion:

The best weapon against trolls and the really ugly / disgusting beast of hatred is to starve it. Starve it for attention, and let it die weeping alone. Don't feel obligated to take it on; ignore it and let us mods sweep its corpse under the rug.

Likewise, if you don't have something decent to say, don't. Doesn't have to be nice with frosting and glitter, but it should at least be decent. That includes withholding that really intense desire to battle the idiotic, irrational, misinformed who choose to share their opinions. Just let it be, don't poke at a monster that can't be tamed. It also includes name-calling or other condescending language toward others on this site. Just bite your tongue/tie your hands behind your back: whatever.

If unruliness and ugliness are poisoning our verdant community; I have no problem clamping down on the rules and stamping out those weeds with the heavy end of my ban hammer.

That said, if you are personally passionate about GoNintendo and want to help with peacekeeping in the blog story discussions, get in touch, I might give you incredible powers.

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