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EA says relationship with Nintendo is good, looking into Wii U for future support

Coming from a Polygon interview...

"We have a good partnership with Nintendo. We released four games on the platform over the last year and we're pretty proud of Need For Speed, and Madden, and FIFA and Mass Effect. We have guys that are looking at the Wii U in the studio system right now as an opportunity for the future, but we have no publicly announced Wii U games that we're going to release this fall. ...We have four titles out on the Wii U that are active right now, so looking at how things unfold, that's where our focus is right now." - EA president of labels Frank Gibeau

What a weird response to give. What exactly are they looking for? I guess that's their way of saying they want to wait for more people to buy the Wii U.

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08 Jun 2013 20:45

Just bring us Star Wars games! Good ones that is!
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08 Jun 2013 21:03

EA's relationship with Nintendo is "good"... hahaha, yeah, like we should believe that.
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08 Jun 2013 21:10

They publish only four games for Wii U and they're happy!?
What a load of crap!
Here's a suggestion EA, if you want to really see how well one of your games performs on Wii U, release Mass Effect Trilogy. Sit back and watch the $$$ roll in!
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08 Jun 2013 21:15

Translation:

"We're waiting to see if MS and SONY will shoot themselves in the foot and if they do, we'll crawl back to Nintendo and stick to them like the parasites that we are."
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08 Jun 2013 21:32

Thanks RMC. I needed a good laugh today. :lol:
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08 Jun 2013 21:48

motherbra1n wrote:
Maxram0 wrote:maybe they are saying that due to the bad software sales on the WiiU outside of first party Publishing(Nintendo Land 1,090,000, New Super Mario Bros U 840,000).

The total sales of all 4 titles combined(Fifa 13, Mass effect 3, NFL 13, Need for Speed: Most Wanted U) is only 190,000, considering the hard work put in some of these titles, (Need for speed, I'm specifically looking at you), I'm not shocked they don't want to support the WiiU with DLC or next years annual sport releases, there isn't enough consumer base to warrant profit back from porting the extra content. edit: source http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/47/wii-u/ not the best place since it only show sales for the physical copies, but non the less, good enough

disclaimer: I'm not defending EA, it sucks that we don't get the games we want, but in the end, EA is a company out to make money, and from that angle, the WiiU isn't a profitable investment YET


haha, please tell me you're joking.

we've been through this ridiculous argument so many many times I'm not going to bother and I don't think anyone else will.


as I said in brackets, I was referring to need for speed, re-worked light engine which surpasses even the PC version, HD texture pack, and great use on the pad and pro controller, that game deserved to sell more than just 30,000! that was one of the first 3rd party games that wasn't published by Nintendo them self where the DEVELOPERS put effort in making the game the best it can be for the WiiU, yet it was largely ignored due to it being published by EA, a total shame :(
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08 Jun 2013 21:51

I'll only forgive them if they can give Nintendo consoles the SAME support as they give the others, at the very least.
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08 Jun 2013 21:57

oh lol, some delusional folks here, are we pretending nothing happened on the xbox front ? didn't ea make a special partnership with microsoft and is planning to give them exclusive on their very lucrative sports line ? i mean come on, sales have nothing to do with the situation, they started the games then they sabotaged them near release. Mass effect 3 with trilogy just doesn't make any sense. Criterion had nothing but praised even clearly stated that the next one should be release on time, and then ea corporate stepped in. They decided to do that well before any lul in wii u sales. Now Ea is going to receive a cut of gamestop business and both will gladly together crush any private sales. So yeah for EA !!

it's just the logical continuation of the dlc , online pass trend . It's official now. so there's no need to argue.
And as the why , maybe nintendo refused to participate which i find extremely doubtful, or they don't want to release their game without the ms (and sony) drm on another platform or even they didn't talk with nintendo about it in order to avoid the trust lawsuits in the usa and in europe . Especially in europe where they are kind stingy with all "free market" related matter

lol talking about specs, when this just unfold, come on . It's the biggest scandal ever, it's also as a side effect revealing all the paid plants on various forums even the ones which pride themselves in their selective registration .

to put into a video form rmc might appreciate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7CZJsQ9ZFw


and a last tip for late port, on pc they are (i am too) quite excited about the very late port of castlevania los 1, sure they will say it's about the framerates and other extras but the reality is quite simple : the game will be sold at the full price of.... 40$ ! and one month three month tops it's going to reach 20 . Sleeping dogs reached 7 six weeks after, tomb raider 13 seven weeks after. So you see, if they were serious about making some serious money , third parties would have done the same. Especially since they are also pretending that the nintendo systems are secondary systems for power users. And guess what, going by money spend on games, so is the pc platform !
and then they could have used those goty, compilation to boost their digital presence on x1 and ps4 . They are stupid, or really they are so excited at the prospect of crushing ebay, amazon private sales and the likes of gamefly . So much more easy , free money .
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Anonymous
08 Jun 2013 22:01

Maxram0 wrote:
motherbra1n wrote:
Maxram0 wrote:maybe they are saying that due to the bad software sales on the WiiU outside of first party Publishing(Nintendo Land 1,090,000, New Super Mario Bros U 840,000).

The total sales of all 4 titles combined(Fifa 13, Mass effect 3, NFL 13, Need for Speed: Most Wanted U) is only 190,000, considering the hard work put in some of these titles, (Need for speed, I'm specifically looking at you), I'm not shocked they don't want to support the WiiU with DLC or next years annual sport releases, there isn't enough consumer base to warrant profit back from porting the extra content. edit: source http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/47/wii-u/ not the best place since it only show sales for the physical copies, but non the less, good enough

disclaimer: I'm not defending EA, it sucks that we don't get the games we want, but in the end, EA is a company out to make money, and from that angle, the WiiU isn't a profitable investment YET


haha, please tell me you're joking.

we've been through this ridiculous argument so many many times I'm not going to bother and I don't think anyone else will.


as I said in brackets, I was referring to need for speed, re-worked light engine which surpasses even the PC version, HD texture pack, and great use on the pad and pro controller, that game deserved to sell more than just 30,000! that was one of the first 3rd party games that wasn't published by Nintendo them self where the DEVELOPERS put effort in making the game the best it can be for the WiiU, yet it was largely ignored due to it being published by EA, a total shame :(


It is a shame, but the game was a late port, however awesome it is and it is still selling at a much higher price than the other versions. It's a full $10 cheaper right now on Amazon for the 360, $15 for PS3, and $20 less for PC. And they have DLC. That might have something to do with it. It is a great game and I love it, but come on.
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08 Jun 2013 22:26

internet wrote:oh lol, some delusional folks here, are we pretending nothing happened on the xbox front ?



Are you talking about how some nerds declared the death of Microsoft because... because nerds?
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08 Jun 2013 23:42

That company is a mess
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08 Jun 2013 23:56

>EA
>Good relationship with Nintendo

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09 Jun 2013 00:02

Then make something good
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09 Jun 2013 00:10

KingBroly wrote:Year+ old ports, put out Trilogy before the Special Edition release, call it gen 3, have your devs shovel on it.

That's a good relationship?


Don't forget, getting up on stage at E3 and lying to the audience (some now Wii U owners), about future game support like Battlefield.

I agree though, EA's problem is their own. Who is to blame for poor sales of their Wii U games? If I have a product, and it doesn't sell, do I blame the consumers, or do I try and figure out why it wasn't being purchased? EA was actively sabotaging their own Wii U games, like Madden not using the "new" engine, and announcing the Mass Effect Trilogy before the Wii U version released. Then they want to complain? Seriously? Is this a business? Is this why these people waste years of their life in college?

One of Nintendo's problems though, is apparently bad Western management (NOA), who pays a PR firm for what, I'm not exactly sure.
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Anonymous
09 Jun 2013 02:02

Dear EA,

**** you.

Sincerely,

Me.
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09 Jun 2013 02:07

They can keep their ****** games !!!
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09 Jun 2013 03:38

robometal cowboy wrote:EA says relationship with Nintendo is good, looking into Wii U for future support

We're pretty proud of Need For Speed, and Madden, and FIFA and Mass Effect.


You have misplaced pride in at least two of those. Shame.
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09 Jun 2013 06:20

Wow, it's like EA has released just as many games on Wii U as Nintendo has!
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09 Jun 2013 06:26

Maxram0 wrote:maybe they are saying that due to the bad software sales on the WiiU outside of first party Publishing(Nintendo Land 1,090,000, New Super Mario Bros U 840,000).

The total sales of all 4 titles combined(Fifa 13, Mass effect 3, NFL 13, Need for Speed: Most Wanted U) is only 190,000, considering the hard work put in some of these titles, (Need for speed, I'm specifically looking at you), I'm not shocked they don't want to support the WiiU with DLC or next years annual sport releases, there isn't enough consumer base to warrant profit back from porting the extra content. edit: source http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/47/wii-u/ not the best place since it only show sales for the physical copies, but non the less, good enough

disclaimer: I'm not defending EA, it sucks that we don't get the games we want, but in the end, EA is a company out to make money, and from that angle, the WiiU isn't a profitable investment YET


You say you aren't defending EA, but your words speak differently. What hard work? All of the games were rushed ports with missing or no DLC, Need for Speed was nothing special and all of these games were full priced while missing features.

How about releasing a competent version of Madden with the Infinity Engine and the support the other consoles got. How about releasing the Mass Effect Trilogy instead of Mass Effect 3 for the same price PS3 and Xbox 360 owners can get all three games. How about having the version of FIFA the PS3 and Xbox 360 owners get instead of a reskinned FIFA 12 with some weak gamepad features and lacking modes.

Maybe it would be profitable if they actually enhanced the features instead of gimping them and charging full price. Notice how Sonic and All Stars Racing and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate were both profitable and good? Yeah cause they ADDED features not subtracted them. Wii U owners are too smart to buy EA's half assed trash.
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09 Jun 2013 10:31

toupee43 wrote:
Maxram0 wrote:
as I said in brackets, I was referring to need for speed, re-worked light engine which surpasses even the PC version, HD texture pack, and great use on the pad and pro controller, that game deserved to sell more than just 30,000! that was one of the first 3rd party games that wasn't published by Nintendo them self where the DEVELOPERS put effort in making the game the best it can be for the WiiU, yet it was largely ignored due to it being published by EA, a total shame :(


It is a shame, but the game was a late port, however awesome it is and it is still selling at a much higher price than the other versions. It's a full $10 cheaper right now on Amazon for the 360, $15 for PS3, and $20 less for PC. And they have DLC. That might have something to do with it. It is a great game and I love it, but come on.


I agree, I wish it was a launch title, but had NFS been a launch titles, it would have been a lazy port, with no enhanced lighting, hd textures, or good use of the pad/pro controller, in the end, that 5 month delay is worth it I think, and yeah, by the time it was out, the pricing model didn't favour it compared to the home console and pc versions already out, most people didn't even know about the enhancement it received for the WiiU version, and it had no plans for future DLC, but at least it came with 1 DLC on disc for free so that was more than the other versions got at launch for the same launch price, that's how I see it, in the end, I praise NFS due to Criterions team hard work (not out sourcing it like most ports) and effort to making it the best it can be on the WiiU and transcending the game making it the definitive version of the game out of the box.

DLC doesn't count since it's an add on, this is my logic :p

so yes, EA are dicks, Criterion are Win, sales make me sad
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09 Jun 2013 10:52

Furious Francis wrote:
Maxram0 wrote:maybe they are saying that due to the bad software sales on the WiiU outside of first party Publishing(Nintendo Land 1,090,000, New Super Mario Bros U 840,000).

The total sales of all 4 titles combined(Fifa 13, Mass effect 3, NFL 13, Need for Speed: Most Wanted U) is only 190,000, considering the hard work put in some of these titles, (Need for speed, I'm specifically looking at you), I'm not shocked they don't want to support the WiiU with DLC or next years annual sport releases, there isn't enough consumer base to warrant profit back from porting the extra content. edit: source http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/47/wii-u/ not the best place since it only show sales for the physical copies, but non the less, good enough

disclaimer: I'm not defending EA, it sucks that we don't get the games we want, but in the end, EA is a company out to make money, and from that angle, the WiiU isn't a profitable investment YET


You say you aren't defending EA, but your words speak differently. What hard work? All of the games were rushed ports with missing or no DLC, Need for Speed was nothing special and all of these games were full priced while missing features.

How about releasing a competent version of Madden with the Infinity Engine and the support the other consoles got. How about releasing the Mass Effect Trilogy instead of Mass Effect 3 for the same price PS3 and Xbox 360 owners can get all three games. How about having the version of FIFA the PS3 and Xbox 360 owners get instead of a reskinned FIFA 12 with some weak gamepad features and lacking modes.

Maybe it would be profitable if they actually enhanced the features instead of gimping them and charging full price. Notice how Sonic and All Stars Racing and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate were both profitable and good? Yeah cause they ADDED features not subtracted them. Wii U owners are too smart to buy EA's half assed trash.


DLC are add on, so out of the box, NFS had 1 dlc for free, re-worked light engine designed to take advantage of the WiiU processor, HD textures to take advantage on the WiiU ram, and actually good idea to make the WiiU controls unique, all this was does by Criterion them self, it was not out sourced, the main team took 5 month to make the WiiU version the best it can be, even surpassing the PC version! it just so happen that EA owns them, and by the sales of the game not being good, EA doesn't want to waste more resources on releasing DLC that wont be profitable, and the fact that by the time is was ready for the WiiU it was dirt cheap on the other consoles, but as a consumer, I do not regret the WiiU version because it was THAT GOOD! and more developers should takes Criterions effect as an example, a standard to how ports should be handled for the WiiU.

it pissed me off to no end that they didn't make the mass effect trilogy on the WiiU, and released it around the same time as 3 on the WiiU, and despite Mass effect 3 being outsourced, to my surprise, it was not a lazy port, the gamepad uses were cool! annoying that there were no tutorials on how to use the awesome new features, and I had to actually use the manual on the gamepad (never thought I'd use it...ever), it was defo one of the cooler 3rd party games on the WiiU, and again, out of the box, Mass effect 3 came with 2 free DLC, that is more that the other consoles and pc version got on for the same price on launch, it does suck that we don't get the other DLC, and it didn't have a rebuilt lighting or hd textures like NFS, but this was a launch title, and it ran smoothly, and more importantly, the game was fun and took many hours playing it.

I'm not a sport person, so I honestly don't know jack about what EA does with that on any consoles, nor do I care

in the end, EA are dicks for not supporting Nintendo more, but to say everything under their reign is bad is just wrong, Criterion development studio gets high praise and respect from me for trying so hard to make the game best it can be for the WiiU, and the outsourced team who ported Mass effect 3 to the WiiU did a fine job! but in the end, EA holds the money, and the money determines who gets what, so no, I'm not defending EA, I'm defending the little man who worked hard to give us a good product!
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10 Jun 2013 06:43

Anyone else kinda hoping that they get called out at E3? Geoff Keighly tends not to pull any punches (unless he's surrounded by Doritos and Mountain Dew......).

Also, it will be interesting to see if these comments hold any water once E3 is out of the way. If M$oft pull the wool over people's eyes, it will be hilarious to watch them try and wriggle their way out. Not that any Nintendo fans want their games any more, that's kinda what happens when you piss people off and generally insult them.

Interesting to theorise that Sony could very well have the hump too. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they burst out of the gate and highlight XBone's potential flaws as a marketing ploy. No DRM in Sony 1st party titles! No need for an internet connection! You can turn our camera off!! Yes, we are very expensive right now, but look at all the shizzle I can do!!

This is going to be fun.

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