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GoNintendo 'End of Day' thought - GN Mailbag 6/19 (Respect, Mario Party and E3)



Daan won't be covering the site this Wednesday, so that means you're stuck with me! That also means no evening nap for me. I better get my rest now! See you in a few, short hours!



I love doing the mailbag. I 100% love reading and answering your questions. Another set of good ones this time around. We talk a bit about Nintendo fans and respect, Mario Party bloodbaths and Nintendo's unique approach to E3. Have a read below and please send more mail our way!


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Vitor: I think that we, as Nintendo fans, have a sort of catch-22 problem with third parties. They put crappy ports/versions of their games on Nintendo consoles, which leads to poor sales, and then they don't want to make more or better games for Nintendo consoles. My question is: what should we do, as Nintendo fans, to communicate to those third-parties that we just want some respect? All I want is some respect.

RMC: I hear you, man...I really do. I'm with you on the respect thing. We can play Nintendo games and enjoy the hell out of them, which is why we're all gathered on this site. We can also let what others say about Nintendo roll off our backs. Hearing other gamers bash Nintendo isn't fun, but getting into a verbal fight over it gets us nothing. Like what you like, let others like what they like and live happy knowing you take an open-minded approach while others feed off negativity. There approach is no way to live a life.

As for getting respect from third parties, that's a tough one. The truth of the matter is, many third parties view Nintendo's first party titles as a real threat to their work. Why release a version of your game for a Nintendo platform when you have to go toe-to-toe with Nintendo's quality of games? Sony and Microsoft have great first-party titles as well, but Nintendo has an entire business built off their brands. I can understand that being a tough proposition.

The problem is, third parties don't really try anymore. Most put out games on Nintendo systems with less features than what's offered in the other outings. Why do Nintendo platforms, when they do get third party titles, end up without parity the competition gets? On top of that, third parties blame fans for not buying these games. It's almost like they want excuses to not support Nintendo platforms. I'm not going to pay the same price for a title on a Nintendo platform that doesn't match every possible feature that other versions get. Why should I be stiffed? That doesn't mean I don't want to support third parties on Nintendo platforms, it means I want to be respected.

Unfortunately, there's also the situation of quality third party games that just don't sell on Nintendo platforms. There have been cases of high-quality, feature-matched titles on Nintendo systems that just don't sell. That might have something to do with the type of title or Nintendo fans that want first-party only. If that's the case either way, so be it. I feel the bigger problem comes from third party support in terms of quality and features, but Nintendo fans that completely ignore third parties don't help. I feel it important to really support quality third party support, but I can't be mad at a gamer that only spends money on what he/she wants.

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James: Did you ever get into a fight with someone over a game of Mario Party?

RMC: Mario Party is the ULTIMATE game in my family that causes fights. I'm not one to fight over that game (or any!), but my sister is an absolute maniac. She cannot make it through a game of Mario Party without becoming enraged. It has nothing to do with the actual mini-games. It's all about the star stealing and random board spots that have you losing your stars/coins randomly. The bad luck always seems to head her way, which makes her really furious. Truth be told, we actually avoid playing the series with her now because of those fights!

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Haleman: Since nintendo will not host a big e3 presser this year, will you go to e3 anyway this year?

RMC: Ha, I guess I'm a little late on this one.

As many of you know, I did not attend the show. It was my first year in 8 years that I haven't gone to E3. Working the show from home was both a blessing and a curse. No matter what, the show brings a massive wall of news. Staying on-top of the actual news this year was easier because of being at a computer all the time, but working the show allows for so much more insight and detail.

If Nintendo takes the same approach to E3 next year, I'm thinking I'll do the same thing as well. I'll hang back and cover from home. I seriously miss attending the show because of all the people I never get to see. It's work and it's tough, but it's a great place to chat with those you deal with via email all the time. I can't tell you how much I missed everyone this year, but I had to do what's right for the site and my personal funds. The lack of traditional press conference and multiple roundtables meant it just didn't make sense for me to attend. Hopefully you enjoyed the coverage on the site.

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19 Jun 2013 05:14

robometal cowboy wrote:
If Nintendo takes the same approach to E3 next year, I'm thinking I'll do the same thing as well. I'll hang back and cover from home. I seriously miss attending the show because of all the people I never get to see. It's work and it's tough, but it's a great place to chat with those you deal with via email all the time. I can't tell you how much I missed everyone this year, but I had to do what's right for the site and my personal funds. The lack of traditional press conference and multiple roundtables meant it just didn't make sense for me to attend. Hopefully you enjoyed the coverage on the site.

I'm okay with this, as long as you promise to go the E3 IF I get to go one day! (I'll be going as a developer! So you will HAVE to interview me! [as if I could get that important... :roll: ])
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19 Jun 2013 05:48

"If Nintendo takes the same approach to E3 next year, I'm thinking I'll do the same thing as well. I'll hang back and cover from home."

I'm fine with this. Your updates were more timely than ever. I still wish Nintendo would ship a van full of ladies and shirtless men with Wii U's and 3DS's strapped to them straight to your home so you could try everything.

Ah, but the world is not perfect.
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19 Jun 2013 06:03

Yeah, GoNintendo is still my primary source for E3 Nintendo news, either way. The coverage was still great.
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19 Jun 2013 09:20

The problem is, third parties don't really try anymore. Most put out games on Nintendo systems with less features than what's offered in the other outings. Why do Nintendo platforms, when they do get third party titles, end up without parity the competition gets? On top of that, third parties blame fans for not buying these games. It's almost like they want excuses to not support Nintendo platforms. I'm not going to pay the same price for a title on a Nintendo platform that doesn't match every possible feature that other versions get. Why should I be stiffed? That doesn't mean I don't want to support third parties on Nintendo platforms, it means I want to be respected.


What you say is true in some respects, RMC, and a current example would be Call of Duty Black Op's 2. It is the same full game on Wii U, Xbox360, & PS,3 but with a difference being that the Wii U doesn't get any DLC, making it an inferior version for a lot of people.

But on the other hand, 3rd party companies release some great games on Nintendo platforms but these games don't sell well at all. Look at Zak & Wiki or Little Kings Story or Red Steel 2 on Wii.... all three were great games and a blast of fun but had terrible, terrible sales figures.

Or look at Need for Speed: Most Wanted on Wii U. EA released a BETTER version and added more features for the Wii U version than the versions for Xbox360 or PS3. But despite that the improvements and work the developers put into the Wii U version, the sales figures for the game are completely abysmal.

The issue of 3rd party games on Nintendo systems is a two edged sword. In some cases its the fault of 3rd party developers because they release vastly inferior ports or just pure, crappy games. On the other hand, when 3rd party developers do release excellent ports or outstanding, original games, Nintendo owners often ignore these games because they want Nintendo titles.

Maybe the only solution is a treaty: 3rd parties agree to give the same quality effort to Nintendo versions of games as they do to Xbox360 & PS3 versions, while Nintendo owners agree to buy games so that the attach rate for the Nintendo systems is the same as the attach rate for Xbox360 & PS3 system.
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19 Jun 2013 11:26

Thanks for everything RMC. You should allow yourself a one hour nap this evening. :)
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20 Jun 2013 01:09

[quote=Elfteiroh]I'm okay with this, as long as you promise to go the E3 IF I get to go one day! (I'll be going as a developer! So you will HAVE to interview me! [as if I could get that important... :roll: ]) [/quote]

Good luck, when you become a developer. Could I be a voice actor?
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24 Jun 2013 11:33

GamingZoid wrote:[quote=Elfteiroh]I'm okay with this, as long as you promise to go the E3 IF I get to go one day! (I'll be going as a developer! So you will HAVE to interview me! [as if I could get that important... :roll: ])


Good luck, when you become a developer. Could I be a voice actor?[/quote]
If my plans to create a small indie company with some friends succeed, every time we will need help for things like that, the GoNintendo forums will be the first (or close second) place I'll ask. ;)

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