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GoNintendo 'End of Day' thought - Has Nintendo's 2013 Wii U lineup sold you on the system?



I've had some hands-on impressions of upcoming first party Wii U/3DS titles for 2013. I'm going to be sharing my thoughts very soon. For now, I'm much more interested in your thoughts! See you in a few, short hours.


Nintendo's E3 2013 presentation has come and gone. While I'm sure there are more secrets just waiting to be uncovered, we have a very good idea of what the next few months look like for the Wii U. Thankfully for Nintendo fans, the Big N is soon starting a Wii U avalanche that includes one big-name first party title a month.

There are indeed some heavy hitters in the pack. I think most of us are looking forward to Super Mario 3D World. There's a big reason that game is close to the holiday season. Of course, there are other big games coming as well. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3, Wii Party U and more will be out before we know it.

As I said, this is great news for those of us that already own a Wii U. We'll have some high quality titles heading our way. I'm sure Nintendo is out to make us happy, but they're even more focused on bringing in more Wii U consumers in general. Lots of people are hanging back from a Wii U purchase for a number of reasons. Nintendo wants to change that this year.

Will the lineup they've unveiled be enough to bring in a new wave of Wii U owners? Iwata himself said that it only takes one big title to change a system's history. The Wii U could certainly use a game like that. Is there a game in this 2013 lineup that will do the trick? Have you seen a game that has convinced you that you'll need a Wii U before the year is out?

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27 Jun 2013 12:40

I bought a Wii U at launch. Heck, I was first in line at the midnight launch, so E3 didn't have to sell me on much.
I have 10 games for it currently: Nintendo Land, New Mario U, Zombi U, Tekken Tag 2, Sonic Racing, Darksiders 2, Injustice, Ninja Gaiden 3, Resident Evil: Revelations and Lego City. And I plan on getting Game and Wario over the weekend.
Take that, topped with eShop games, Mighty Switch Force HD, Trine 2, Nano Assault Neo to name a few, I am MORE than happy with my Wii U purchase.

And with Luigi U (disc) coming, and then The Wonderful 101, Watch_Dogs, Assassin's Creed 4, Arkham Origins and Mario 3D World, and then my Wii U version of Cryamore at the start of next year, I really can't get behind the hate.

Also, am I in the minority of actually looking forward to WindWaker HD?
Maybe it's cause my WW came bundled with my GameCube, so I never actually went out and bought it.
Or maybe my rose tinted glasses have been filled with bloom. And that's another thing I'm personally getting tired of reading. The game looks alot smoother than the initial screenshots we were given. I don't see the bloom overload the rest of you are by comparison.

I have said NUMEROUS times on here, that by waiting for the price drop, or going out of your way to not embrace what the system is trying to put out now and what it has in the immediate future, YOU are hurting the console. YOU are holding the console to ransom for promises that have not YET been made (Metroid, StarFox, F-Zero).
Nintendo have just brought Donkey Kong out of cryo-stasis. Give them time. StarFox COULD be next while they wait for the Other M heat to die off before trying another Metroid outing, Retro made or not.

For those waiting on X and Smash Bros in 2014... I have a question... What if X Bombs?
What if lightning doesn't strike twice and set the Nintendo world alight like Xenoblade Chronicles did?
If people are waiting for a game that we know jack shovel about, while taking a dump over the upcoming selection, then, I can only believe you're setting yourselves up to fail. I want to be wrong, but, banking your hopes on one game, we have maybe 2 minutes of footage of... I just hope it doesn't end up biting people in the ass, or become the Nintendo equivalent of FF13. Again, I really hope I'm wrong.

But, look. I am not a card-carrying member of the "Nintendo Defense Force" - another term thrown out here a lot - I fully acknowledge that Nintendo have failed to communicate the use and urgency of the Gamepad.
I, along with all of you admit that Nintendo Land was not the best way to recapture the Wii Sports magic, but for anyone whose sat down with it, you'll agree that it is the greatest possible tech demo for the Wii U's capabilities.
I fully acknowledge and have criticised that New Mario U was a cheap way for Nintendo to have a Mario game out at launch to at least TRY and not have the same complaints of the 3DS launch.
I would have preferred if there was a larger Hard Drive than just 32GB.
And I REALLY do not like that Europe have not been granted access to friggin Nintendo TVii.

I am bummed that Mario Kart 8 isn't coming by this year's end, as I would have rathered that over Mario 3D World, which I raged hard against initially for not being the expected 64>Sunshine>Galaxy>Galaxy2 successor, and the cat gimmick annoyed me like nothing else. Though watching gameplay demos is starting to turn me toward the game's potential, but that might be because Mario 2 is my favourite Mario game.

It's no secret that the console's launch is rife with trouble, but, I don't believe it's nothing Nintendo can't turn around.
All I'm saying is, if you want Nintendo to succeed, then invest. You don't have to buy the "cash-ins", but for Din's sake, don't vote with your wallet by turning it into the gun that might prove all the naysayers correctly by making the Wii U the Nintendo Dreamcast.
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27 Jun 2013 12:47

ChainALM wrote:I bought a Wii U at launch. Heck, I was first in line at the midnight launch, so E3 didn't have to sell me on much.
I have 10 games for it currently: Nintendo Land, New Mario U, Zombi U, Tekken Tag 2, Sonic Racing, Darksiders 2, Injustice, Ninja Gaiden 3, Resident Evil: Revelations and Lego City. And I plan on getting Game and Wario over the weekend.
Take that, topped with eShop games, Mighty Switch Force HD, Trine 2, Nano Assault Neo to name a few, I am MORE than happy with my Wii U purchase.

And with Luigi U (disc) coming, and then The Wonderful 101, Watch_Dogs, Assassin's Creed 4, Arkham Origins and Mario 3D World, and then my Wii U version of Cryamore at the start of next year, I really can't get behind the hate.

Also, am I in the minority of actually looking forward to WindWaker HD?
Maybe it's cause my WW came bundled with my GameCube, so I never actually went out and bought it.
Or maybe my rose tinted glasses have been filled with bloom. And that's another thing I'm personally getting tired of reading. The game looks alot smoother than the initial screenshots we were given. I don't see the bloom overload the rest of you are by comparison.

I have said NUMEROUS times on here, that by waiting for the price drop, or going out of your way to not embrace what the system is trying to put out now and what it has in the immediate future, YOU are hurting the console. YOU are holding the console to ransom for promises that have not YET been made (Metroid, StarFox, F-Zero).
Nintendo have just brought Donkey Kong out of cryo-stasis. Give them time. StarFox COULD be next while they wait for the Other M heat to die off before trying another Metroid outing, Retro made or not.

For those waiting on X and Smash Bros in 2014... I have a question... What if X Bombs?
What if lightning doesn't strike twice and set the Nintendo world alight like Xenoblade Chronicles did?
If people are waiting for a game that we know jack shovel about, while taking a dump over the upcoming selection, then, I can only believe you're setting yourselves up to fail. I want to be wrong, but, banking your hopes on one game, we have maybe 2 minutes of footage of... I just hope it doesn't end up biting people in the ass, or become the Nintendo equivalent of FF13. Again, I really hope I'm wrong.

But, look. I am not a card-carrying member of the "Nintendo Defense Force" - another term thrown out here a lot - I fully acknowledge that Nintendo have failed to communicate the use and urgency of the Gamepad.
I, along with all of you admit that Nintendo Land was not the best way to recapture the Wii Sports magic, but for anyone whose sat down with it, you'll agree that it is the greatest possible tech demo for the Wii U's capabilities.
I fully acknowledge and have criticised that New Mario U was a cheap way for Nintendo to have a Mario game out at launch to at least TRY and not have the same complaints of the 3DS launch.
I would have preferred if there was a larger Hard Drive than just 32GB.
And I REALLY do not like that Europe have not been granted access to friggin Nintendo TVii.

I am bummed that Mario Kart 8 isn't coming by this year's end, as I would have rathered that over Mario 3D World, which I raged hard against initially for not being the expected 64>Sunshine>Galaxy>Galaxy2 successor, and the cat gimmick annoyed me like nothing else. Though watching gameplay demos is starting to turn me toward the game's potential, but that might be because Mario 2 is my favourite Mario game.

It's no secret that the console's launch is rife with trouble, but, I don't believe it's nothing Nintendo can't turn around.
All I'm saying is, if you want Nintendo to succeed, then invest. You don't have to buy the "cash-ins", but for Din's sake, don't vote with your wallet by turning it into the gun that might prove all the naysayers correctly by making the Wii U the Nintendo Dreamcast.


The thing is Nintendo bet on the gamepad and they haven't show much future of how this value proposition is going to innovate/refine gameplay. It has shown experiences that work really well on the 3DS, but I want something that couldn't be accomplished neither on the 3DS or the other console. So until then I'll wait.

EDIT: Also why haven't we got more 3rd person shooters using the wiimote, on Sin & Punishment and RE:4 it was fantastic. In Pandora's Tower the IR was used well for exploration and travelling.
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27 Jun 2013 12:52

ChainALM wrote:I bought a Wii U at launch. Heck, I was first in line at the midnight launch, so E3 didn't have to sell me on much.
I have 10 games for it currently: Nintendo Land, New Mario U, Zombi U, Tekken Tag 2, Sonic Racing, Darksiders 2, Injustice, Ninja Gaiden 3, Resident Evil: Revelations and Lego City. And I plan on getting Game and Wario over the weekend.
Take that, topped with eShop games, Mighty Switch Force HD, Trine 2, Nano Assault Neo to name a few, I am MORE than happy with my Wii U purchase.

And with Luigi U (disc) coming, and then The Wonderful 101, Watch_Dogs, Assassin's Creed 4, Arkham Origins and Mario 3D World, and then my Wii U version of Cryamore at the start of next year, I really can't get behind the hate.

Also, am I in the minority of actually looking forward to WindWaker HD?
Maybe it's cause my WW came bundled with my GameCube, so I never actually went out and bought it.
Or maybe my rose tinted glasses have been filled with bloom. And that's another thing I'm personally getting tired of reading. The game looks alot smoother than the initial screenshots we were given. I don't see the bloom overload the rest of you are by comparison.

I have said NUMEROUS times on here, that by waiting for the price drop, or going out of your way to not embrace what the system is trying to put out now and what it has in the immediate future, YOU are hurting the console. YOU are holding the console to ransom for promises that have not YET been made (Metroid, StarFox, F-Zero).
Nintendo have just brought Donkey Kong out of cryo-stasis. Give them time. StarFox COULD be next while they wait for the Other M heat to die off before trying another Metroid outing, Retro made or not.

For those waiting on X and Smash Bros in 2014... I have a question... What if X Bombs?
What if lightning doesn't strike twice and set the Nintendo world alight like Xenoblade Chronicles did?
If people are waiting for a game that we know jack shovel about, while taking a dump over the upcoming selection, then, I can only believe you're setting yourselves up to fail. I want to be wrong, but, banking your hopes on one game, we have maybe 2 minutes of footage of... I just hope it doesn't end up biting people in the ass, or become the Nintendo equivalent of FF13. Again, I really hope I'm wrong.

But, look. I am not a card-carrying member of the "Nintendo Defense Force" - another term thrown out here a lot - I fully acknowledge that Nintendo have failed to communicate the use and urgency of the Gamepad.
I, along with all of you admit that Nintendo Land was not the best way to recapture the Wii Sports magic, but for anyone whose sat down with it, you'll agree that it is the greatest possible tech demo for the Wii U's capabilities.
I fully acknowledge and have criticised that New Mario U was a cheap way for Nintendo to have a Mario game out at launch to at least TRY and not have the same complaints of the 3DS launch.
I would have preferred if there was a larger Hard Drive than just 32GB.
And I REALLY do not like that Europe have not been granted access to friggin Nintendo TVii.

I am bummed that Mario Kart 8 isn't coming by this year's end, as I would have rathered that over Mario 3D World, which I raged hard against initially for not being the expected 64>Sunshine>Galaxy>Galaxy2 successor, and the cat gimmick annoyed me like nothing else. Though watching gameplay demos is starting to turn me toward the game's potential, but that might be because Mario 2 is my favourite Mario game.

It's no secret that the console's launch is rife with trouble, but, I don't believe it's nothing Nintendo can't turn around.
All I'm saying is, if you want Nintendo to succeed, then invest. You don't have to buy the "cash-ins", but for Din's sake, don't vote with your wallet by turning it into the gun that might prove all the naysayers correctly by making the Wii U the Nintendo Dreamcast.


It makes no sense to buy the console before it has what I want and then just hope that it will. X is one of the games I am most looking forward to. I don't see how waiting for it could be setting myself up to fail. If it is not good, then Monolith and Nintendo failed, not me. It makes no sense to invest in Wii U if it doesn't have what you want yet. When you buy the console you are giving Nintendo positive reinforcement. If I buy the console now, it is like saying to Nintendo that I approve, when I don't. If they think I approve, they aren't going to do anything differently. I really have no idea where you are coming from.
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27 Jun 2013 13:01

Pwny wrote:It makes no sense to buy the console before it has what I want and then just hope that it will. X is one of the games I am most looking forward to. I don't see how waiting for it could be setting myself up to fail. If it is not good, then Monolith and Nintendo failed, not me. It makes no sense to invest in Wii U if it doesn't have what you want yet. When you buy the console you are giving Nintendo positive reinforcement. If I buy the console now, it is like saying to Nintendo that I approve, when I don't. If they think I approve, they aren't going to do anything differently. I really have no idea where you are coming from.


That's exactly where I'm coming from. The attitude of "2 minutes of X trailers look amazing. I'm not buying a Wii U until that comes out." and then, let's say the game fails. "Oh well, no Wii U for me."
Where is the logic in that for people? The prime franchises are coming (Donkey Kong, Mario, Pikmin) and/or are in development (Zelda U, Smash, Kart), SO, I'm REALLY just confused on what exactly people are waiting for? A price drop?

Maybe it will happen at Christmas to get a 1-Up on the new consoles. Maybe it won't. Maybe Nintendo will dig their heels into the ground this time.
But, I just don't see why people are still so up in the air about getting the Wii U knowing the games are coming, will make every excuse against getting one, but then still expect Nintendo to cater to them alone.
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27 Jun 2013 13:02

already had a Wii U, but this year is looking good regardless. Furthermore, they're not going to stop just with this year as they have shown properties well into 2014
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27 Jun 2013 13:08

ChainALM wrote:
Pwny wrote:It makes no sense to buy the console before it has what I want and then just hope that it will. X is one of the games I am most looking forward to. I don't see how waiting for it could be setting myself up to fail. If it is not good, then Monolith and Nintendo failed, not me. It makes no sense to invest in Wii U if it doesn't have what you want yet. When you buy the console you are giving Nintendo positive reinforcement. If I buy the console now, it is like saying to Nintendo that I approve, when I don't. If they think I approve, they aren't going to do anything differently. I really have no idea where you are coming from.


That's exactly where I'm coming from. The attitude of "2 minutes of X trailers look amazing. I'm not buying a Wii U until that comes out." and then, let's say the game fails. "Oh well, no Wii U for me."
Where is the logic in that for people? The prime franchises are coming (Donkey Kong, Mario, Pikmin) and/or are in development (Zelda U, Smash, Kart), SO, I'm REALLY just confused on what exactly people are waiting for? A price drop?

Maybe it will happen at Christmas to get a 1-Up on the new consoles. Maybe it won't. Maybe Nintendo will dig their heels into the ground this time.
But, I just don't see why people are still so up in the air about getting the Wii U knowing the games are coming, will make every excuse against getting one, but then still expect Nintendo to cater to them alone.


For my part, I want unique gaming experiences on the Wii U. Like the Wii I'm looking for games that will not be able to play on other systems (gamewise), until now it looks like Pikmin 3 and the Wonderful 101 will do this. But they're too similar. I need more variety.
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27 Jun 2013 13:10

ChainALM wrote:
Pwny wrote:It makes no sense to buy the console before it has what I want and then just hope that it will. X is one of the games I am most looking forward to. I don't see how waiting for it could be setting myself up to fail. If it is not good, then Monolith and Nintendo failed, not me. It makes no sense to invest in Wii U if it doesn't have what you want yet. When you buy the console you are giving Nintendo positive reinforcement. If I buy the console now, it is like saying to Nintendo that I approve, when I don't. If they think I approve, they aren't going to do anything differently. I really have no idea where you are coming from.


That's exactly where I'm coming from. The attitude of "2 minutes of X trailers look amazing. I'm not buying a Wii U until that comes out." and then, let's say the game fails. "Oh well, no Wii U for me."
Where is the logic in that for people? The prime franchises are coming (Donkey Kong, Mario, Pikmin) and/or are in development (Zelda U, Smash, Kart), SO, I'm REALLY just confused on what exactly people are waiting for? A price drop?

Maybe it will happen at Christmas to get a 1-Up on the new consoles. Maybe it won't. Maybe Nintendo will dig their heels into the ground this time.
But, I just don't see why people are still so up in the air about getting the Wii U knowing the games are coming, will make every excuse against getting one, but then still expect Nintendo to cater to them alone.


My attitude is not that I want Donkey Kong, Mario, Pikmin, Zelda, Mario Kart etc but am waiting for X to come out first. My attitude is that I am getting bored with continually rehashing the same franchises (how many 2d platforming games can I play and still get enjoyment out of it?) but that X looks like something I might buy the system for. But I have to wait to see if it is actually any good first.

Edit
I am also waiting to see if the system will get any third party support after the xbox one and ps4 are released. If not, it is Nintendo's own fault for purposefully choosing to be a generation behind hardware wise. It is not a decision I necessarily disapprove of. If third parties want to keep making great games on this generation of hardware, then it is fine. But if they don't want to do that then I think it is a bad decision. Nintendo should care more about what third parties want to develop on. Until Nintendo gets on better terms with third parties, I have a hard time supporting them since I don't approve of that.

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I also don't think Nintendo is making games for me. They are making games for the version of me 10 years ago and the people who are that age today. It is difficult to continually surprise me when I have played so many games. It is much easier to rehash what you have already done since it will delight the people who have not already played it to death. After all, there is a whole new crop of 10 year olds each year who have not already played every Zelda game to the point where even though the love the series, they are getting bored.
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27 Jun 2013 13:16

I already have a WiiU but even if I wouldn`t have one SonicLW, Pikmin3, SM3DWorld, Wonderful101, DKCtf and RaymanLegends would definitely make me get one...

I may even get Watch_Dogs and BatmanAO if they are superior through the Gamepad to other systems... Busy year for WiiU-owners!
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27 Jun 2013 13:30

SecondGearLuffy wrote:2014 is whats gonna sell me. Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros and X!!!!!! Now thats a great 2014 that should convince most gamers.


Yet, ironically, most who have posts essentially stating the same thing will probably be changing that status to an equivalent to their 2013 point of view.

Something like, 'X, Mario Kart, SSB, Bayonetta, Yarn Yoshi, SMTxFE, and any F-Zero/Starfox/Mario Golf/Pokémon Snap/Sonic game won't be enough!' will probably be witnessed by Feb.

Pwny wrote:
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I am also waiting to see if the system will get any third party support after the xbox one and ps4 are released. If not, it is Nintendo's own fault for purposefully choosing to be a generation behind hardware wise. It is not a decision I necessarily disapprove of. If third parties want to keep making great games on this generation of hardware, then it is fine. But if they don't want to do that then I think it is a bad decision. Nintendo should care more about what third parties want to develop on. Until Nintendo gets on better terms with third parties, I have a hard time supporting them since I don't approve of that.


The issue is the same regardless of power. It is just the easy blame and buzz-phrase that third parties had then, cause people ate it up for the Wii's reasoning due to it's power being VERY apparent. We cannot say this right now cause most efforts are a graphically straight-forward port from the 360. You sadly cannot gauge it based off this. The only thing we got to use is the third parties spouting off about it being less powerful, though yes by default it is due to timing, I fail to assume there is at least a little smoke and one mirror behind the knee-jerk response. The PS2 is a primo example how this raises an eyebrow at. The Wii U is comparable to the gap of that to the GCN/Xbox. Visually noticeable, not negligible.

If it's not the power excuse, it's the attachment rate, if not that it's the first party titles eating them alive, if not that then third parties just do not sell on Nintendo consoles, not that then they see the controller confusing and hard to work with.

If they just went standard parts/power to compete with the twins, they'd already lose. If not from having achievement system, then by not having one previously. And they don't simply have the access to the grunting power for that pissing contest.

Take your pick, as any and all of these can and will be used in the entirety of the Wii U's life span. If not already.
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27 Jun 2013 13:33

Vonter wrote:For my part, I want unique gaming experiences on the Wii U. Like the Wii I'm looking for games that will not be able to play on other systems (gamewise), until now it looks like Pikmin 3 and the Wonderful 101 will do this. But they're too similar. I need more variety.


I get that. It's a valid point. Sometimes I wonder if Nintendo even knows what to do with their own creation since the only two games I've seen really play around with the possibilities are ZombiU and Sonic Transformed, which is sad...
Nintendo Land was a good start to show off a few good things, but I admit it doesn't look like they've really transitioned any of those ideas to upcoming games.
Maybe they bit off more than they could chew? Or maybe they will shock us once the games are closer to release and we know more about them.

I just don't want Nintendo to either drop out, or become as samey as the other two, which is probably why I'm so adamant or finding it hard to believe that people, that supposed life long fans are cutting the legs off of it before it's even had a chance to stand up. I just sometimes get the feeling that the fanbase has finally cracked and bought into the Pachter-esque doom and gloom forecasts.

Pwny wrote:My attitude is not that I want Donkey Kong, Mario, Pikmin, Zelda, Mario Kart etc but am waiting for X to come out first. My attitude is that I am getting bored with continually rehashing the same franchises (how many 2d platforming games can I play and still get enjoyment out of it?) but that X looks like something I might buy the system for. But I have to wait to see if it is actually any good first.


Don't get me wrong. I'm not calling you out in particular, so apologies if it seems that way. But I don't see what X has to be the saviour game people are waiting for when we know next to nothing about it.
It's like the FF13 hype and how it was meant to save the FF franchise from stagnation and Sonic syndrome kicked into overdrive. Annnd then it crashed and burned. So, I'm wary, understandably?

And I get what you're saying about the 2D platformers, and on one hand I agree and on the other hand I remember that THAT is Nintendo's bread and butter. Always has been.
I can only hope that 3D World is a stop gap, to get through Christmas, and maybe we'll see a "true" 3D Mario building toward 2015

Pwny wrote:Edit
I am also waiting to see if the system will get any third party support after the xbox one and ps4 are released. If not, it is Nintendo's own fault for purposefully choosing to be a generation behind hardware wise. It is not a decision I necessarily disapprove of. If third parties want to keep making great games on this generation of hardware, then it is fine. But if they don't want to do that then I think it is a bad decision. Nintendo should care more about what third parties want to develop on. Until Nintendo gets on better terms with third parties, I have a hard time supporting them since I don't approve of that.


I think it's less of being a generation behind and more of people like EA pretty much outright admitting they can't be bothered looking at the architecture of the Wii U. It's no secret that Nintendo dug it's own burial site with 3rd parties when they used to have monopoly and treated them like crap, so I agree Nintendo needs to sort it's PR out, but in their defense, they are trying to turn things around. I just hate having to acknowledge that the Wii U will need a decent Fifa or Madden to be taken "legitimately". I don't get the appeal of Ryse or Titanfall or even Destiny. I might be in the minority, but I don't see games like them being crucial to the success of Wii U.
That said, while I'm not a fan, the lack of CoD: Ghosts on Wii U is worrying for me.
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27 Jun 2013 13:52

link2metroid wrote:I bought the system at launch and it's been a disaster so far. 2013 doesn't look good, don't care for the phone-in that is Mario 3D World, it's a sad lazy effort. I've already played The Wind Waker, a waste of a port. Some games this year look alright, Donkey Kong Country Returns: Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101 being the best.

But the 3rd party situation is beyond a joke. I don't think anything this year will generate great sales.

Next years Nintendo games look much better but the WiiU needs sales now as it's on life support and could be dead this time next year with the competitions new consoles.


"But the 3rd party situation is beyond a joke."

-Arkham Origins
-Blacklist
-Watch_Dogs
-Rayman
-Ghosts (You know its coming, its COD)

I wouldn't say those are "jokes". Certainly not a lot, but what _is_ coming is solid.
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27 Jun 2013 16:44

It sold me by being a Nintendo system. But I am a tad disappointed by the lack of some games. But as I always say, less games is good because there's already too much I want to buy/play.
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27 Jun 2013 17:04

Swedish_Otaku wrote:It sold me by being a Nintendo system. But I am a tad disappointed by the lack of some games.
<<--Yeah, I would have to agree, on both accounts.
The most frustrating thing is that the many possibilities for asymmetric gameplay (that would truly showcase the system) are only starting to emerge. Without this, you might as well have a 3ds. I know wii u is more powerful, but with new consoles coming out, they shouldn't really lean on that too much.
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27 Jun 2013 17:50

Mewtaker wrote:people are SO greedy nowadays. Nintendo starts to deliver and we want more. sigh w/e im enjoying everything so far.

You seem to be under the belief that every single individual person that likes Nintendo thinks by hivemind and actually asked for the games they showed at E3 and now are dissatisfied.
I certainly did not ask for many of the things I saw this E3.
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27 Jun 2013 20:04

Super Mario 3D World and Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze have sold me on the system, as have the promise of Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros 4 next year.

Of course, I don't plan to buy it until November, since Game & Wario, Pikmin 3 and Wind Waker HD don't interest me at all for various reasons, but their lineup has pushed me far enough that I do want to buy the console soon.
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27 Jun 2013 20:21

ddddd wrote:
Mewtaker wrote:people are SO greedy nowadays. Nintendo starts to deliver and we want more. sigh w/e im enjoying everything so far.

You seem to be under the belief that every single individual person that likes Nintendo thinks by hivemind and actually asked for the games they showed at E3 and now are dissatisfied.
I certainly did not ask for many of the things I saw this E3.


Out of curiosity, what were you wanting to see?
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28 Jun 2013 02:39

Well, Monster Hunter *was* that game for me, but as a platformer fan I probably would have pulled the trigger regardless.

Since I already own the platformer with Mario, I will be buying the platformer with Luigi, the platformer with Rayman, the platformer with Donkey Kong, the other platformer with Mario, and probably the platformer with Sonic, though I will skip the platformer with Scrooge McDuck and the platformer with Yoshi.
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28 Jun 2013 09:12

Hamr wrote:Since I already own the platformer with Mario, I will be buying the platformer with Luigi, the platformer with Rayman, the platformer with Donkey Kong, the other platformer with Mario, and probably the platformer with Sonic, though I will skip the platformer with Scrooge McDuck and the platformer with Yoshi.

Haha well played.

Simply put for me, nothing that was announced at E3, including brawl and mariokart (simply because I'm not big into those games) that truly makes me glad I bought a wii U instead of a 3ds last year. I think they've probably got some concept games brewing that they can't announce yet that will further differentiate the system.
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28 Jun 2013 11:36

The fundemental problem with Wii U in regards to not having "Wii like" success is that they took the one thing that made Wii what it is and compeltely 180'd it.

I'm talking about the input device.

They went from a $40 consumer friendly one handed remote like device that people bought in droves and instead put out a $100+ (we don't even know the real number yet) device that can only work 1 per system that is also extremely daunting for anyone that isn't a core gamer to behold. And core gamers that aren't also Nintendo fans equally hate it.

THAT is the fundemental problem with the Wii U. While I personally do enjoy the Gamepad (and many people that frequent this site do) the fact of the matter is we are the extreme minority and it is showing week after week and month after month in sales.

Even when the new software comes, I believe the input device will continue to be a barrier for people looking to pick up a Wii U. All I ever hear is "I just want the Pro controller to work with all the games" and I can't find fault in that request. It's a familiar design, and a damn good controller on it's own right.
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28 Jun 2013 12:10

gatorboi352 wrote:T

They went from a $40 consumer friendly one handed remote like device that people bought in droves and instead put out a $100+ (we don't even know the real number yet) device that can only work 1 per system that is also extremely daunting for anyone that isn't a core gamer to behold. And core gamers that aren't also Nintendo fans equally hate it.


I don't really buy that. For one thing, it's already confirmed that future games will be able to use two GamePads, but that hasn't come up yet. For another, while the Wiimote may have brought some people to the dance, if they had brought out the Wii U with a Wiimote, people would have just had more "confusion" over whether or not it was even a new console.

I think the GamePad is a great idea, personally, and don't believe it's this huge "barrier" that some try to claim. I also don't think that "core gamers" hate it. Only the ones who haven't actually held/tried the damn thing out, hate on it, in my opinion. And that is nothing new from anti-Nintendo fans anyway. I think the Wii U could absolutely still appeal to a broad audience. The proof, to me, is in the fact that Mario Kart and New Super Mario Bros. are two of the top selling DS games of all time. And neither one of those used the allegedly "casual friendly" touch screen for much of anything.
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28 Jun 2013 15:49

Sisibakbak wrote:
ddddd wrote:
Mewtaker wrote:people are SO greedy nowadays. Nintendo starts to deliver and we want more. sigh w/e im enjoying everything so far.

You seem to be under the belief that every single individual person that likes Nintendo thinks by hivemind and actually asked for the games they showed at E3 and now are dissatisfied.
I certainly did not ask for many of the things I saw this E3.


Out of curiosity, what were you wanting to see?

If you must know, I was hoping for more ambitious and fresh titles. Of everything I saw, only Mario Kart and X were able to impress me (and that being on the technical and basic gameplay side, because nothing uses the gamepad in interesting ways)
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29 Jun 2013 17:14

As of this moment, no system has sold me in this new generation. For me to pick up a WiiU it would take either a $100 price cut or a smaller price cut and bundle ($300 for the best sku plus Pikmin 3 would be great). While I'm sure the games revealed at E3 will be good, none of them are system sellers for me. I am very much content with spending 1 year+ clearing out my unfinished games. But you never know what can happen during that time, XBOX ONE or PS4 may get that killer app and then my gaming dollars could head their direction.
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29 Jun 2013 17:39

gatorboi352 wrote:and instead put out a $100+ (we don't even know the real number yet) device


We actually do. It was revealed when someone took a screen cap of a replacement form on the nintendo site - it was around ~150.
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30 Jun 2013 00:23

I would be thrilled with a new Star Fox game. After all, Nintendo always uses the franchise to test out new technology, except the Wiimote. I'd even settle for a Wii U remake of Assault.
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30 Jun 2013 12:15

QckDraw89 wrote:I would be thrilled with a new Star Fox game. After all, Nintendo always uses the franchise to test out new technology, except the Wiimote. I'd even settle for a Wii U remake of Assault.



On that last note, *shudders*. Just no.

On the rest, as much as I wanted a new SF for Wii, having it control with the Wiimote/nunchuck might have actually been more of a headache than it was worth. If Command taught us anything, it's that Star Fox is a buttons-based game. Has to be. I personally don't relish the idea of shaking my controllers trying to get the barrel roll to work, and having it not register at the wrong moment. The IR aiming might have been nice, but all around, while it kind of sucks on the one hand that we didn't get a SF Wii, on the other hand it might have been best.

Star Fox U, in HD, with normal controls? And NO Assault/Command type nonsense? I'm sold.

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