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Nintendo offering eShop credit to those that purchased Batman: Arkham Origins season pass due to yanked support

If you purchased a Wii U season pass for DLC related to Batman: Arkham Origins, you might want to check your eShop account. You might have $20 credit waiting for you, as explained by Nintendo below.

Thanks so much for your support of Batman: Arkham Origins on Wii U.

We are contacting you today because you purchased the Batman: Arkham Origins Season Pass for Wii U. We hope you’ve been enjoying the content that has been delivered thus far. Based on demand for Downloadable Content on the system, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment has made the decision to remove its offering of the upcoming new story campaign for Wii U. As a result, we will be crediting the entire $19.99+tax cost of the Season Pass back to your Nintendo eShop account. You will still be able to enjoy the content already released thus far.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your support of the game.

Sincerely,
Nintendo of America Inc.


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30 Jan 2014 23:51

@OmnipotentSwine
I was mainly referring to the constant "I'm never gonna buy from [publisher you know they never bought a game from] again!!" people that are constantly complaining every time a third party cuts back on something. These people are the reason we're not getting the support that other systems do. Most Nintendo fans couldn't even be bothered to support a Nintendo first party game like Wonderful 101 but still we hear constant crying about lack of support, new ips etc.
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30 Jan 2014 23:53

I'm never buying a WB game again! I bought Arkham City twice! TWICE!

So I got Origins at launch and was really looking forward to the DLC. Now they pull this. Nope I'm done. If I get the next Batman title it will be used so they don't see one cent!
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30 Jan 2014 23:53

I bought Origins on Wii U mainly for the fact that it was $10 cheaper than the other consoles and I don't do multiplayer for games like that. However, adding to the single player experience is something I do care about and I was ready to purchase this DLC day one just because I really like Mr Freeze. I really do want to support 3rd parties on Wii U, and I really have been trying, but it's just like this just won't stop. I'm glad i'll be getting my money back for that season pass and thank you to Nintendo for that, but this is just ridiculous. I'm sick of these gimped and watered down versions of games that some of these companies (not all) obviously put a lot more focus and care into the other systems. I know there are some here who only care about the Nintendo side of things but in addition to them, I enjoy a lot more outside of what Nintendo offers and i'd be even more unhappy right now if the Wii U was the only system I had at the moment.
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30 Jan 2014 23:57

DBPanterA wrote:
OmnipotentSwine wrote:@pokemaster515
I bought it AND pre-purchased the DLC.

I didn't have as much freezing problems as you did, though. I only had one freeze throughout the entire game.


I loved Origins. I had a half dozen freezes, mostly when entering a new section of Gotham or when I was gliding trying to avoid gun fire.

I was looking forward to the Mr. Freeze, since there isn't a lot of play on the Wii U. It could have at least entertained me for a weekend.

As far at the $20 credit: This is not costing WB. This is a good will gesture from Nintendo to those that bought it (like myself) to purchase other things. I have so many eShop cards due to both Best Buy (20% off) and then the Target credit card breach where they offered 10% off for a weekend (so I got $100 in eShop cards for $70 as I price matched Best Buy). I had no intention of getting LoZ: ALttP on the Wii U, because I would really like it on the 3DS, the Zelda console, but I might use part of the money on that game.....


If you have a 32GB system you should download A Link to the Past on the Wii U.

Since every Wii U Eshop purchase gives you 10% back through that digital promotion. You'll eventually have some more coupons/download codes to use on the Eshops.
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31 Jan 2014 00:01

jraics wrote:I'm no expert, so maybe someone here can explain this to me, but how much could it possibly cost WB to fulfill their promise? They already created the content for other consoles and they've also already released DLC for the game on Wii U. What's the big cost that's making them pull a dick move like this? DLC should be mostly profit at this point.


Well in fact they would have to pay to the devs that make the port of that content. Sure they have it already for all the other consoles and PC BUT they still need to port them for Wii version. Not only that, they also have to pay testers and give tech support if something goes wrong after release. Its not like they could just grab the PC files and "convert to" WiiU... :(
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31 Jan 2014 00:04

pokemaster515 wrote:@OmnipotentSwine
I was mainly referring to the constant "I'm never gonna buy from [publisher you know they never bought a game from] again!!" people that are constantly complaining every time a third party cuts back on something. These people are the reason we're not getting the support that other systems do. Most Nintendo fans couldn't even be bothered to support a Nintendo first party game like Wonderful 101 but still we hear constant crying about lack of support, new ips etc.


I haven't heard anything but support for the Wonderful 101 is a shame it didn't sell well despite being one Wii U's best games then and now. I've also seen this more with western developers.
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31 Jan 2014 00:18

@Jack_Atlas:

Yes, I am aware of the digital promotion. I actually am one that has bought a lot of digital games for the Wii U, but more on the 3DS. Link to the Past is my favorite Zelda game (played and beaten them all). My reasoning is these are the Zelda games I own on the 3DS: LoZ, LoZ: AoL, LoZ: LA, LoZ: Oracle games, LoZ: 4 Swords, LoZ: OoT 3D, LoZ: MC, LoZ: LBW and I got the DS cartridges for Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass.

I just wish I could add Link to the Past to my portable Zelda collection. Instead, I can buy it on the Wii U, and then with Nintendo's backwards philosophy, they will add it to the 3DS in the future and expect me to buy it all over again, something I do not wish to do (I can play it on my SNES or an emulator). It's more the issue that if a game is available on both consoles, I shouldn't have to buy it again, and I feel it will ultimately end up on the 3DS.
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31 Jan 2014 00:19

MatrosRx wrote:Ok, that's it, I'm not supporting third party multiplatform titles on Wii U anymore and will instead buy them on PC. I will continue to support Wii U exclusives though.


I had to choose between PC or new console. I'm glad I choose to save for a gaming PC. Aint got 360 nor PS3. I got to enjoy both Batman Arkham Asylum and City (GOTY) for less than $40 and I have more games I can play (I still play a lot, and I will play a lot as long as I can :lol: ) so no regrets on supporting PC games rather than console in general.

Right now I'm just interested on Metal Geal Solid Ground Zeros/Phantom Pain so if its not announced for PC I may get a PS4. :roll:
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31 Jan 2014 00:48

pokemaster515 wrote:@OmnipotentSwine
I was mainly referring to the constant "I'm never gonna buy from [publisher you know they never bought a game from] again!!" people that are constantly complaining every time a third party cuts back on something. These people are the reason we're not getting the support that other systems do. Most Nintendo fans couldn't even be bothered to support a Nintendo first party game like Wonderful 101 but still we hear constant crying about lack of support, new ips etc.


I never pay much attention to who publishes/develops what game, but if fans are getting screwed out of support that was promised to be there, i feel like it's ok to complain. I do think it's a bit ridiculous for some to say they won't buy a game just because of who publishes it, but that is their decision.
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31 Jan 2014 01:02

pokemaster515 wrote:@OmnipotentSwine
I was mainly referring to the constant "I'm never gonna buy from [publisher you know they never bought a game from] again!!" people that are constantly complaining every time a third party cuts back on something. These people are the reason we're not getting the support that other systems do. Most Nintendo fans couldn't even be bothered to support a Nintendo first party game like Wonderful 101 but still we hear constant crying about lack of support, new ips etc.


AT least they now have the perfect excuse for Watch Dogs almost completely certain bomb "Well, Third parties are dicks, so of course every third party game deserves to pay for that dickery, we are glad it bombed"
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31 Jan 2014 01:10

LSF22 wrote:
pokemaster515 wrote:@OmnipotentSwine
I was mainly referring to the constant "I'm never gonna buy from [publisher you know they never bought a game from] again!!" people that are constantly complaining every time a third party cuts back on something. These people are the reason we're not getting the support that other systems do. Most Nintendo fans couldn't even be bothered to support a Nintendo first party game like Wonderful 101 but still we hear constant crying about lack of support, new ips etc.


I never pay much attention to who publishes/develops what game, but if fans are getting screwed out of support that was promised to be there, i feel like it's ok to complain. I do think it's a bit ridiculous for some to say they won't buy a game just because of who publishes it, but that is their decision.


The game still matters but when you get familiarized with some developers you can expect some things.

Like with SUDA 51 having surprisingly likeable characters even if many look like stereotypes and other side of the spectrum is clunky gameplay but playable.

Ubisoft has controls that are hard to get to (Splinter Cell, Assassin's Creed and Zombi U are my experiences of controls that could have been more intuitive, they're not bad just take time to grasp).

Developers under EA vary in quality but much of their shortcomings are heavily implied to come from the publisher (DRM, Microtransactions, tacked on multiplayer that didn't appear on later sequels, the list goes on).

Nintendo, remarkable gameplay, intuitive controls but lacking in the story department and also deceiving release dates.

Platinum has games with over the top action that demands good reflexes and usually challenges their players, still most of their stories are dull, either being too generic (Vanquish) or too preposterous (Bayonetta).

Capcom has charismatic games that like to make fun of themselves but like EA it rehashes some of their properties (SF and MH) and has localization problems when telling a story.

Sorry I got carried away.
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31 Jan 2014 01:23

So basically another 3rd party gives the finger to Nintendo gamers. Yeah, I think I'm pretty much done trying to support 3rd parties unless they regain a sense of professional behavior. This isn't some vicious cycle; 3rd parties just outright refuse to do their jobs properly and they pitch a fit when people rightfully call them out on their incompetence. Enough. If your business is so badly run you can't support one more version of a game then that's not a problem with Nintendo, that's a problem with YOU. I will not accept mediocrity despite lack of 3rd party support. Furthermore, forget unprofessional behavior or incompetence, this is just plain scummy. Wake me up when 3rd parties start acting like adults
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31 Jan 2014 02:48

@Aiddon Yep, they sowed their own self-prophecies on the Wii [and now Wii U] and expect gamers to just accept anything.
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31 Jan 2014 03:08

Aiddon wrote:So basically another 3rd party gives the finger to Nintendo gamers. Yeah, I think I'm pretty much done trying to support 3rd parties unless they regain a sense of professional behavior. This isn't some vicious cycle; 3rd parties just outright refuse to do their jobs properly and they pitch a fit when people rightfully call them out on their incompetence. Enough. If your business is so badly run you can't support one more version of a game then that's not a problem with Nintendo, that's a problem with YOU. I will not accept mediocrity despite lack of 3rd party support. Furthermore, forget unprofessional behavior or incompetence, this is just plain scummy. Wake me up when 3rd parties start acting like adults

When they have an environment on Nintendo platforms where their games sell, they'll care. Nintendo treated third parties like garbage for decades. Now they're reaping what they've sewn.
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Anonymous
31 Jan 2014 03:13

Self fulfilling prophecies abound. Why would any self respecting Nintendo console owner buy third party games when they always pull this bs? I'm not sure they understand that we don't want an inferior product, and we won't buy one.
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31 Jan 2014 04:20

Sickening.

Thanks a lot WB.
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31 Jan 2014 07:16

Shaanyboi wrote:
Aiddon wrote:So basically another 3rd party gives the finger to Nintendo gamers. Yeah, I think I'm pretty much done trying to support 3rd parties unless they regain a sense of professional behavior. This isn't some vicious cycle; 3rd parties just outright refuse to do their jobs properly and they pitch a fit when people rightfully call them out on their incompetence. Enough. If your business is so badly run you can't support one more version of a game then that's not a problem with Nintendo, that's a problem with YOU. I will not accept mediocrity despite lack of 3rd party support. Furthermore, forget unprofessional behavior or incompetence, this is just plain scummy. Wake me up when 3rd parties start acting like adults

When they have an environment on Nintendo platforms where their games sell, they'll care. Nintendo treated third parties like garbage for decades. Now they're reaping what they've sewn.


Let's look at the last decade. Please tell me how Nintendo has treated third parties like garbage
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31 Jan 2014 07:20

Why isn't WB issuing the credit?
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31 Jan 2014 10:55

As I said before, this is discouraging. I paid for the game and then to show support for the game, I paid for season pass.
I am glad I got a refund, used it on MH3U.

There is absolutely no incentive no reason for anyone who owns multiple systems to buy a 3rd party game on Wii U.


In the past, have 3rd party companies treated new Playstations or Xboxes like this at launch or in the system's first year???
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31 Jan 2014 11:51

wiired wrote:
Let's look at the last decade. Please tell me how Nintendo has treated third parties like garbage


No kidding; if people are STILL going on about the NES/SNES days like they're still relevant this is all I have to say: YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. Seriously, that was twenty freaking years ago. If 3rd parties are still holding a grudge over that then there are some SERIOUS freaking issues they need to work out. I have found NOTHING indicating that 3rd parties are somehow in the right with their attitudes towards Nintendo. It's disgusting behavior and the fact that people are letting it slide is unacceptable. These are not some starving artists; companies like WB, EA, and Ubisoft are multi-billion dollar corporations with insane resources. They do not get to hide behind the excuse of "being treated bad by Nintendo." That's the kind of excuse whiny little brats use. And until 3rd parties stop acting like brats I refuse to give them any respect
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31 Jan 2014 12:01

The demand is simply not there... I'd assume WB stands to loose something by creating DLC for the WiiU otherwise the company has no reason not to releas it.

Nintendo has been caught up in this vicious cycle for years now.
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31 Jan 2014 13:00

Really disappointing. They sort of made me regret buying the game now.
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31 Jan 2014 14:14

beaus27 wrote:As I said before, this is discouraging. I paid for the game and then to show support for the game, I paid for season pass.
I am glad I got a refund, used it on MH3U.

There is absolutely no incentive no reason for anyone who owns multiple systems to buy a 3rd party game on Wii U.


In the past, have 3rd party companies treated new Playstations or Xboxes like this at launch or in the system's first year???


Never. Not even when the PS3 was selling jack all in it's first year or so.

Third Parties kept the faith there.

Spoiler:
That they'd be paid handsomely for filling the huge gaps both systems would inevitability have otherwise.
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31 Jan 2014 20:22

edit-- I tend to focus on negatives too much I guess....but somewhat jaded and pessimistic and a thinker...well sue me for being me. But I forgot to add that: the positive out of all this is Nintendo's response to its customers giving a refund. Great. Now you guys enjoy your refunds. Warner Bros can shove their DLC where the console sun doesn't shine.

It's things like this why the Wii U and Nintendo's name/image with the other idiot gamers so called "hardcore" won't ever change.

Silly BS like this. So...want the cut down stripped down HD versions of the OTHER TWO HD BOXES...get a WiiU.

MEH. on the other hand ...Whatever DLC can be somewhat of a sham anyway. People who defend DLC like it is end all be all (if you don't have it) should ask themselves why they game. Think deep and hard about that one. Keep in mind how much we pay for the regular boxed disc based or digital full retail game. heh.

DLC can be interesting add on content..SURE not refuting that BUT its not end all be all and although the e shop on Nintendo's end is perfect for it....well I guess things do not always work out in reality aaaaaaand the BS continues then eh?.

Now its no so much this....it's what this means. I mean such a AAA or at least AA title and its yanked DLC support from...yeah the Nintendo system version. Gooooooooooo figure. Why am I not surprised.

Well then business as usual in the console space.

Mark this day in gaming history.

More to come and more to follow the ALREADY long running trend.

i i i.
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31 Jan 2014 20:27

Aiddon wrote:
wiired wrote:
Let's look at the last decade. Please tell me how Nintendo has treated third parties like garbage


No kidding; if people are STILL going on about the NES/SNES days like they're still relevant this is all I have to say: YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. Seriously, that was twenty freaking years ago. If 3rd parties are still holding a grudge over that then there are some SERIOUS freaking issues they need to work out. I have found NOTHING indicating that 3rd parties are somehow in the right with their attitudes towards Nintendo. It's disgusting behavior and the fact that people are letting it slide is unacceptable. These are not some starving artists; companies like WB, EA, and Ubisoft are multi-billion dollar corporations with insane resources. They do not get to hide behind the excuse of "being treated bad by Nintendo." That's the kind of excuse whiny little brats use. And until 3rd parties stop acting like brats I refuse to give them any respect


Man you said it. You said it. Don't think I could of said it any better.

heh.

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