TopCat wrote:Show me a single Wii U game or app that looks (considerably) better than anything that's already available on the other HD consoles, please! Show me something to convince me that the Wii U is more than a glorified 360 with a tablet controller.
A) The GamePad is NOT a "tablet" controller, and people need to quit showing their technological ignorance by continually calling it this. A "tablet", by definition, is a computer that has NO other input devices other than the touch screen that it's built with. The GamePad is a standard issue VIDEO GAME CONTROLLER, hence Analog Sticks, D-Pad, Face Buttons, Shoulder Buttons, Start/Select, etc.
, that also happens to have a rather sizable DS-style touch screen on it. That's a controller with a touch screen (along with some nifty other features). That does NOT make it a "tablet", in any imaginable way, shape or form. If the Wii U came with a "tablet", then it's primary controller would BE a tablet, with multi-point touch screen and NOTHING else, similar to an iPad. Case closed.
B) As someone else pointed out, you're trying to make an irrationally absurd point, by saying that nothing out for Wii U right now (which by the way hasn't even been out two months), looks CONSIDERABLY better than what you'd see out of "late generation" 360 or PS3 games (graphically speaking). For lack of a more sophisticated term, sir, I believe the expression is "DUH". Go back and look at most launch window PS2 or Gamecube or even Xbox games. Very few of them REALLY looked leaps and bounds better the best of what the previous generation had done. Better yes, CONSIDERABLY, no, unless you count exceptions like Rogue Squadron. Even look at launch window 360 or PS3 games. Most of them didn't look WORLDS better than PS2 or Xbox or Gamecube games either. Hence the reason that back in 2006, a GC hardware title like Twilight Princess looked as good as some of the early 360 games I'd seen, and a PS2 title like Shadow of the Colossus was STILL better looking than the early "next gen" stuff.
Point being, and this is an OBVIOUS one, go back to ANY video game console. ANY single one, that has lasted long enough to matter. I don't care if we're talking about the Atari 2600, the NES, the SNES, the Genesis, the Playstation, or the 360, NO game console in the history of this business has ever had it's best looking games right out of the gate. Not once, not ever. NSMBU is a fantastic looking game, but all it's really trying for is taking that NSMB art style to the smoothest it could possibly get, and it's there. Bear in mind that NSMBWii was already a very pretty game (not flashy like Galaxy, but still very smooth and good looking). U just took that up to 10, and honestly, except for I suppose even better backgrounds (and this game does feature some cool looking ones), there isn't MUCH better that art style could look. You have not seen the next Zelda, the next 3D Mario, the next Mario Kart, the next whatever else is coming down the pipeline (Monolith Soft or Retro Studios, anyone?). Wii U will put out games that will make you question the "it's way weaker than the PS4 logic". And yes, again "DUH", the PS4 WILL be more powerful, almost certainly. But Wii U is a powerful console, and if Wii could have such gorgeous games because of great ART DESIGN, then just imagine what Wii U could do. If graphics are all you're going by, then you can rest assured that Wii U will indeed produce some drop dead gorgeous games.
Though quite frankly, I'd personally suggest you try to get more out of games than pretty graphics. They're more fun that way. Have a nice day.