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October 27, 2009 by The News Team Filed Under: Nintendo in general

"I tend to forget those games [laughs]. I'm a big fan of the 'Star Fox' games. Every time we make a 'Star Fox' game I'm hoping people will enjoy it as much as I do. Of course the goal every time is to try and make it more and more fun but, at least in Japan, the people that purchase the 'Star Fox' games has decreased over the years. But we still try to make them more fun and hopefully people will see the appeal in those games." - Shigeru Miyamoto

That sounds to me like Miyamoto has some more plans for the StarFox universe. I really can't wait to see those ideas come to fruition. I'm a huge StarFox fan, just as Miyamoto is!

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bonefish
October 27, 2009 at 1:17 pm
The Wii is the perfect platform for a Star Fox game. Wii MotionPlus + Wii Speak
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Skireny
October 27, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Probably because the series has been unfocused and second-rate ever since Starfox 64.

Try to do an old style Starfox that actually tops it, I guarentee you it'll do great.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I F'n love StarFox. Who cares about the Japanese, us U.S. gamers will buy it.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:19 pm
@bonefish

This. Other than the WS bit.

Can't blame Japan [and the rest of the world] for whining interest when it hasn't had a console game in years, really.

Though, unlike most, I actually liked SFA tbh.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Off topic, but related to Doc Louis' Punch-Out!!

Head's up people: My download already read as "completed" when I clicked my e-mail link. If that happens, call Nintendo: (800) 255-3700.

It's a bug on their end, and they'll have to manually correct it in your account so you can download your game. They said it's happened to a few people, so call if you have an issue.

On topic: Just make a Strafox shooter, like the SNES and N64 version. Go "back to basics", and people will likely come back.
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ModestMr.Green
October 27, 2009 at 1:20 pm
@Skireny

YES. The lack of focus is what's been driving me insane. Wii is perfect for this game. I hope to God they announce one soon.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:20 pm
God I hope he makes another StarFox. I liked Adventures, Assault and Command, but another one just like 64 would make the whole fanbase extremely happy.

Please Miyamoto, make it happen.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Not only the Japanese Mr. Miyamoto.. I lost interest after Lylat Wars too.

Just go back to basics... and in any event there are still a lto of people who would buy a new Star Fox for sure.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:22 pm
The interest in the franchise is decreasing, because the last games sucked.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:23 pm
I want one that uses WM+ and controls like the game in WarioWare only better.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Command was good, but the WarioWare tease should really get going.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:24 pm
>the people that purchase the 'Star Fox' games has decreased over the years.

Go figure, when there hasn't really been a "true" Starfox game since Lylat Wars and the "core" of the franchise basically only consists of the N64 and SNES episodes. Starfox Command may not have been an utter failure, but it just didn't really work out on the DS the way it did on the N64. If anyone bothered to check what made Lylat Wars such a success and transferred it to the Wii with sensible controls, it would definitely work out better than some new "Oh look it's Fox and he's on an adventure! Again!" game.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:25 pm
So make a badass game for Wii then Miyamoto!
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October 27, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Of course interest is decreasing: There have been no big entries into the series in a long time! Of course interest will fade if you don't keep a brand alive. :| Just walk away from the Wuhu Island being a new Nintendo "character" crap and make a new Star Fox already.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Was Miyamoto ever involved with StarFox?
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Skireny
October 27, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Command wasn't bad, but what the hell, it didn't have ANY of the traditional gameplay the previous ones did, just all-range all the time. It'd be like putting out a mario game that was only underwater.

Really, primarily on rails flight shooter, multiple paths leading to different areas and twists. What was wrong with this? The closest thing to try was Armada and quite frankly it blew because it didn't even try to have the multiple paths, one of the things which made Starfox great.

@Hongo

This, however, is retarded. Crybaby core in action.

"IT'S ONLY ONE OR THE OTHER THERE CAN'T BE BOTH HOW DARE YOU MAKE GAMES THAT SELL GREAT NINTENDO WAAAAHHHH".
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reddracojc
October 27, 2009 at 1:32 pm
how about a fps starfox? (please don't kill me xD), With awesome online!! (with landmasters too of course)

something like gears? you and 3 friends playing coop mode xD
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October 27, 2009 at 1:33 pm
How do they expect anyone to be interested if they barely make any games and the ones they do make end up getting mixed reactions and being regarded as mediocre?
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October 27, 2009 at 1:34 pm
@keyz

Lol did you see the sales of some of these "core" games?
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October 27, 2009 at 1:35 pm
A Starfox FPS shooter would be pretty cool imo
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October 27, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Just gives us a great Star Fox game where he stays in his arwing. That's it. I'll a take a tank level here or there, but NO WALKING STAGES!

I love Star Fox, S64 might be my favorite game of all time, but Command was terrible (touch screen controls - WTF) and Assault was above average at best.
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sickopete
October 27, 2009 at 1:37 pm
@WesFX

well StarFox is one of Miyamotos creations like Mario, Zelda, F-Zero etc. so i would assume he would.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Well, if Nintendo EAD won't make a new Star Fox game, and if the Japanese are indeed losing interest, just do what you did to Metroid. Use a western developer that knows what they're doing, and aim for that market. And no, Star Fox Adventures doesn't count, as its in the wrong genre.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:42 pm
The two most 'obvious' franchises that could take advantage of the Wii's tech are the ones that aren't even being made!

Pikmin 3, which would obviously work great with the pointer.

Star Fox, which would work amazing with the pointer, and perhaps some Wii MotionPlus for doing barrel rolls (lol) and stuff.

C'mon Nintendo! Three Excite titles and no Star Fox?
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October 27, 2009 at 1:42 pm
@Skireny

I love how when anyone says for Nintendo work on a core game or franchise, that means they hate the casual and someone will spurt nonsense like that.

No, there can be both (I never said that, take a chill pill). But saying you're sad to see interest in something dying when you do nothing about it is hypocritical. It's like people who complain about being in pain yet don't go to a doctor to fix the problem. Nintendo could develop a new Star Fox if they wanted, but the question is when.
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Fleeman6109
October 27, 2009 at 1:47 pm
i would love to see retro do a star fox game i really think they could bring it back to its glory days.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:50 pm
The interest is almost exactly in tune with the quality of the games.
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mbh911
October 27, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Good thing Miyamoto isn't releasing any new star fox games right now since the game industry is bleeding to death really bad lately. But hopefully it will pick up in the future sometime and then Miyamoto will think about releasing a new star fox game.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I can't believe the author used the words flight SIM to describe this series.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:57 pm
@Burgers

For real! Well, we do know Pikmin 3 has been under production for a while now, but we still haven't seen anything from it..

But still, that and especially StarFox are the big 'duh's for showing off how badass the Wii can be!
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October 27, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Maybe if they'd stop handing them to developers that make them suck so bad more people would have interest.
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Rapidash6
October 27, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Don't be sad Shiggy, just get to work on designing the best Star Fox ever to get people interested in the series again... please? ^^'
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October 27, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Whatever the next Star Fox game is, I hope they bring one thing over from Assault: the orchestrated soundtrack.
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October 27, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Starfox is a series that is badly in need for a new game and with Wii's controls it would be good on all fronts (foot landmaster and arwing). Miyamoto just needs to get this series back on track because much like 64 was, Starfox could potentially be nintendo's halo.
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October 27, 2009 at 2:23 pm
No duh Its decreasing, there hasnt been starfox in forever only other lame games,



Good Games on Wii
Zelda Twilight Princess
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Brothers Brawl
and Maybe Metroid Prime 3 but that is it

I use to be a HUGE Nintendo fan then I play Xbox 360 and I relized that Hell Im an idiot for allways refusing to play the 360.

Its online kills Wii!


That just me, just not to happy with nintendo taking forever to put out new games rather than mario

played

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October 27, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I need my Star Fox Please! They should have asked him about F-Zero and DK as well. Miyamoto had some part in Jungle Beat. But that statement is kind of stupid because of course people will lose intrest if you don't release the game on a timely basis like (looks at Mario, Guitar Hero, Call of Duty, Halo) thats like saying people are losing interest in Ice Climbers
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October 27, 2009 at 2:26 pm
@NintenWiZ

you know there is more than just 5 good games on Wii. Go buy Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn or Battalion Wars 2.
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October 27, 2009 at 2:32 pm
It's a shame there's still no Star Fox for Wii! As previously mentioned, it's the perfect platform for this game. Wii Remote with MotionPlus would make it fantastic, while Wii Speak is just awesome for Online Multiplayer! Versus and Co-op!

Wow! I WANT it!
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October 27, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I probably would get StarFox Wii. I never really played a Star Fox game, but I would get it anyway.
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October 27, 2009 at 2:46 pm
@Burgers

Pikmin 3 is in development, Miyamoto has flat out said it many times.
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October 27, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Release the original starfox on vc! and starfox for ds wasn't even good, you couldn't even use the control pad.
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October 27, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Miyamato-san bring out a new Star Fox for the Wii like Star Fox 64 and us US gamers will gobble it up!
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October 27, 2009 at 3:10 pm
yall people CRAZY! i actually really enjoyed star fox adventures. it was a quality action title. yeah, the flying parts were more or less a mini game of sorts but the game was trying to be something other than flying game and it was fine by me. but look, you cant blame nintendo for them if you didnt like them. adventure was developed by rare and assault was by namco.

assault couldve been better, granted. but it suffers from the same problem of rogue squadron 3. i think maybe they both had only one mode of transportation in mind but had to fit in others (on foot, landmaster tank, speeder bike, what ev.) which couldnt be fine tuned properly before release.. but im could just be rambling..


anywho, yeah, lets light that fire under your keister and come up with a new star fox game already
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October 27, 2009 at 3:11 pm
the starfox on ds controlled fantastically well , people just needed to try or follow a tutorial . So much for "hardcore gamers".
analog control with a screen i just didn't think it was even possible
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October 27, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Hmm. Star Fox could be cool gameplay wise, but I'd rather get a Panzer Dragoon before StarFox. C'mon Sega!

Heh. This Star Fox business reminds me of the Sonic situation.
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October 27, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Well, considering how the last 3 "Star Fox" (as in not really REAL Star Fox games) have been Adventures, Assault, and Command, one okay action game and 2 monumental crap-fests.......then yeah, NO S**T the sales have gone down.

And I'd rather have Star Fox, a REAL follow up to SF64, with ONLY vehicle levels, none of this getting out and running around bulls**t, before a Panzer Dragoon game. However, I would indeed like to have both, ideally.

Miyamoto, my man, just tell the guys who made Star Fox 64 to get off their fat asses, and make a proper sequel, PRONTO. That's all it takes.
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October 27, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Just shows how the most important people can be unaware of why something fails that seems very obvious to others.

I played through Adventures, tried Command, never got around to try Assault, but didn't hear much good or could get it for anything but a horrid price at the time.

SF64 was plain awesome though, I played the hell out of it. Probably more than Wave Race even. So those 2 games would be franchises I'd actually buy for full price right away if they are done properly. But then, the jet-ski racing in Wii Sports Resort is "better than a full blown new wave race". Better my ass.
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October 27, 2009 at 3:55 pm
probably has something to do with the fact that there hasn't been a good game in over 10 years..
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October 27, 2009 at 3:57 pm
We need a 4-player co-op Starfox with people playing as Fox, Falco, etc. Heck, you can make it before Piggy or whatever his name is turned evil. Just do it. XD

It would be a good way to differentiate it from S&P 2, as well as the branching paths. But really, 4-player co-op and a game similar to SF64 and I'll get it.
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October 27, 2009 at 4:10 pm
SFA was my first StarFox game, and I only got it cause the screenshot on the back of my GCN box showed Fox fighting a T. Rex in hand to hand combat.

WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE?! :P

However, Assault IMO sucked because it was so bloody short (that, and Namco didn't put in the same detail like Rare did...). I mean, honestly, individual hairs on Fox's tail in SFA, but all the ships had to be so damn jaggy and pointy? And they could've at least kept the same voice actors from SFA (It don't make sense how Peppy should suddenly acquire a younger sounding voice, when it sounded like he was almost ready to cough up a lung at any moment :P). So yes, I did find it moderately enjoyable, if only because of multiplayer. *Preps flame shield*

However, Command was awful. It just felt so bland and repetitive, and online...actually, I can't anything about it, cause I only used it once, but it didn't leave a great taste in my mouth...

tl;dr I enjoyed parts of walking around and blowing stuff up or going hand-to-hand with a staff, especially in multiplayer. Next SF should be along the lines of (BUT ABSOLUTELY NOT) Assault: Mix of walking and vehicle stages (both on rails and free-roaming), but an epic adventure like.... And online multi. No questions.
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October 27, 2009 at 4:12 pm
people who think command sucked, SUCK! there I said it.

This is fantastic to hear. I want more from this franchise for sure
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hcig
October 27, 2009 at 4:15 pm
NOBODY EATS MY LOVELY CUPCAKES ANYMORE
WHY DOES NOBODY EAT THEM?
THEY STOPPED EATING MY CUPCAKES 6 YEARS AGO
IM SO SAD THEY DONT EAT MY LOVELY CUPCAKES THAT I HAVENT MADE A LOVELY CUPCAKE IN 12 YEARS

WHY DOES NO ONE EAT MY LOVELY CUPCAKES?

-to Nintendo, go screw yourself
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October 27, 2009 at 4:23 pm
save it, troll. You're decidedly black and white view of quality gaming is only going to spill over into other things and make you a miserable person
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October 27, 2009 at 4:30 pm
@hcig

*Sighs*

When did gamers like you get so nasty?

Seriously. The way some of you say your opinions makes it sound as though Nintendo physically assaults you with every business move they make. It's just not cool... You can say negative [and constructive] things without being so venomous.
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October 27, 2009 at 4:49 pm
@hcig

Wha? He's saying even back when the game's first released they didn't sell all that well in Japan. He isn't saying the sales are bad NOW.
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October 27, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Miyamoto always drops hints at what he wants to make. And Miyamoto tends to get what he wants. From this comment we can project that the series will definitely be continued at some point (of course, the jury's out as to whether or not any such game is in development).

I just hope Nintendo learns to compete with itself and best the SNES and N64 versions. No distractions. Just Arwings and some Landmasters. But keep the kickass multiplayer from StarFox: Assault.
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October 27, 2009 at 5:22 pm
@gLitterbug

"Just shows how the most important people can be unaware of why something fails that seems very obvious to others."

You have to be a fool to believe he doesn't realize that outsourcing bad Star Fox games will cause disinterest in the series. Miyamoto tends to sound like a kid when doing interviews.
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October 27, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Okay if that's the case, hoe the HELL did 3 of the franchises characters clog up the last Smash roster?
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johnnycage25
October 27, 2009 at 5:30 pm
BIG FAN of Starfox... enjoyed every game of the series EXCEPT for Starfox DS!!!

I gotta admit i got some really cool ideas the series can head too ad great ideas to add upon the Starfox formula!!!

HERE's a taste of my ideas... One is to make side mode where your mii joins the Starfox crew and can walk aroud the great fox and get several missions from the crew!!

Another great idea is of course multiplayer... but in this case it'll be Destroy the enemy's base in which will be a giant great fox slowly moving around the map by one of the players that join a match... I mean how cool will it be for the great fox to be a base in multiplayer and being able to control it... I could already see shooting enemies down with the great fox's beams!!!!

So i hope Nintendo does something really fun!!!
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October 27, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I'll take Assault on Wii with 16 player online fight on foot, landmaster, and arwing. It would be awesome, oh and wiispeak.
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October 27, 2009 at 7:00 pm
@redhatdrawler

Please God no. No offense, but I'm glad you're not in charge of what Nintendo releases. That game was terrible. I wasted money to buy it, and the ONLY good levels, were the first TWO levels. Why? Because they were what the whole goddamn game should have been, STAR FOX shooter levels. That opening level was what sold me when I saw videos in the first place, the music was awesome, ALL those ships on screen at once, seeing so much going on in the background with no popup (it makes you wonder why Namco did such a TERRIBLE job on Soul Calibur Legends).

But that was it. The get out and walk around levels are absolutely terrible. Not only is that not what Star Fox is about, it doesn't even DO it well, the controls are terrible, the graphics for the walk around levels were laughable, and the missions were just plain tedious. The second to last level was so frustratingly BAD and redundant, that it made you not even WANT to get to the last boss.

So no. Screw Assault. SF64 is THE best shooter of it's kind, ever made. Nintendo shouldn't farm out something they're so good at, they still have the same guys who MADE the damned game, just get them to work that magic again. It would look gorgeous on Wii, and it could be even better than 64. They just need to make it happen.
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October 27, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I like all the games in the series. While I do agree Assault is the weakest entry in the series, the orchestrated music and on rails levels kicked ass.

Command was a good step in the right direction after Assault. Stuck to the ships this time, but because of the RTS elements the battles are all in all-range form and the closest thing you get to on rails shooting are the missile chases. Still liked it overall. Had lots of replay value since it had 9 endings (that's pretty surprising for a game like SF, and I love the F-Zero cameos), the graphics were pretty well done, and some of the story elements weren't bad (while others were just totally "wtf?" inducing, like the "worst ending" that you are forced to get on your first playthrough made no sense to me).

Anyway, yeah a new entry in the series would be very welcome, especially on the Wii. 9-Volt's boss stage in WarioWare: Smooth Moves just keeps feeling like a tease in two ways: 1) a Wii SF still hasn't been announced yet, and 2) the original SNES Star Fox still isn't on the VC yet (thankfully I still have my SNES cart so it's not a huge deal in MY case).
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October 27, 2009 at 7:16 pm
@Chosenoneknuckles

*sigh*

when did gamers loose their teeth, and became too afraid to demand better quality for the products they buy?


@WiiFolder

well, im more pissed about the fact that we cant get a good starfox game because the japanese apparently dont want it.
and methinks if nintendo would put some effort into starfox (which it hasnt in over a decade) the japanese would appreciate it more

just to be clear, the devs for the last 3 starfox games:
rare
namco
q-something
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October 27, 2009 at 7:53 pm
@hcig

Q-Games, which is a dev studio that's actually made up mostly of ex-Argonaut devs who worked on the original SNES Star Fox, and the canceled Star Fox 2 (the RTS elements in Command were actually the dev team's way of bringing back a lost element from SF2).
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October 27, 2009 at 8:17 pm
I very much liked Star Fox Command, it wasn't on rails but I believe it was much better than Assault.

... plus, the only game I played of the whole series was Command... and the WarioWare minigame
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October 27, 2009 at 8:32 pm
He just about inadvertently confirmed a new Starfox there...
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Woot!
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October 27, 2009 at 8:34 pm
k, BigLord, play SF64 right now! But I agree, Command was top notch. The turn-based strategy elements with the combat maps combined with the sweet touch screen analog control made it a blast
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October 27, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Gonintendo confirms new game:
StarFox Universe!
You heard it here first!

Whoops, read it wrong... :(
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October 28, 2009 at 1:51 am
Nintendo needs to let Star Fox in the hands of Treasure.
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October 28, 2009 at 5:46 am
@Eternal Rain

Wow... facts! Something that it's good to know! :)
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chris3116
October 28, 2009 at 7:32 am
Remake Star Fox 2 (the game you didn't release) on Wiiware like Excitebike.
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October 28, 2009 at 9:42 am
@pikma

No, Nintendo needs to let Treasure make the awesome original titles they already make, and have the guys who did such an AMAZING job on SF64, make a true sequel, as has already been said repeatedly.
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October 30, 2009 at 2:36 am
well, nintendo doesn't know which end is up with that franchise, i mean is it Starfox, or Star Fox or Starfox...and the games have progressively gotten worse with each new game.

people either loved the first one and didn't really care about the N64 version, or the loved the N64 and didn't really care about the first one.

one game has real voice work, another has gibberish. there is no set foundation to starfox in anyway.

the series needs to be revamped and retooled.
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