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October 29, 2009 by The News Team Filed Under: Wii, Rumors

This is from the same Streaming Media analyst that we talked about yesterday, but his post has some very specific information that I wanted to share with you guys.

"What I'm hearing is that Nintendo originally planned to bring the Netflix service to the Wii before the end of this year, which still might take place, but that Nintendo is also considering holding off on the Netflix service until they release their next generation Wii HD unit in early 2010." - Dan Rayburn

Mr. Rayburn also claims to have images of Netflix running on the Wii, but he isn't going to share them, as he wants to keep his source safe. Thanks to RPGuy_AD for the heads up!

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October 29, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Sounds valid, but I'll believe it when Nintendo announces it.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Next gen Wii HD is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN EVER next year...it's all garbage!!!
*in so innervate doesn't have to be

Interesting.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:12 pm
With the advent of the DSi LL, I believe this.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Interesting, but I'll believe it when its coming from Nintendo.

"Mr. Rayburn also claims to have images of Netflix running on the Wii, but he isn't going to share them, as he wants to keep his source safe."

...If he isn't going to show them, why bother mentioning them?
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October 29, 2009 at 1:13 pm
He don't have pics, and just wants attention.

At least he didn't tell his six year old kid to hide in the garage while the whole world thinks the kid's in a balloon.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Honestly, it's probably going to happen soon. And I'm talking about the next console. I was reading an article from some uninformed author but he still made some valid points and it is about time Nintendo made drastic changes that will improve their overall performance in the market. Wii is still doing OK, but has definitely slowed down drastically. With this, and the story from yesterday (though I still don't believe some of those stats) it's possible that Nintendo's next system will soon be released (by soon I mean around a year). I wonder if they decided whether they'll support two consoles at once yet.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Wii sales are slowing... but early 2010?
That's like... 3-4 months away...

Sounds more like wishful thinking to me.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Realistically if Nintendo played it smart, they would release an HD Wii before the holidays next year.

The next Wii would probably just be an HD Wii, backwards compatible (up scales old games) and POSSIBLY better online (LOLOLOLOL) Oh and I can dream of an actualy HD or big flash drive built in and DVD/Blueray playback.

I can't imagine it being a drastic departure from what it is now, cept maybe having Motionplus built in to the controller.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:21 pm
@Hami83

Nintendo and announcing don't really go in the same sentence anymore.
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Rapidash6
October 29, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Early 1010? I don't think so Mr. Rayburn. XD
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October 29, 2009 at 1:27 pm
oi, really?

Hey guys I work at a game store and one day some Nintendo rep came in. He was kinda High so I dont think he noticed that he blabbed a whole bunch of secrets!! Nintendos releasing WiiHD Next Gen Epic Console early next year bundled with a controller that has motion plus built in. The System will come in 8 different colors and have an upscaler to work with the older Wii games. Nintendo also did away with friend codes and is using a new server system that allows Live like features. Also you can put any size hard drive in the system because all games will have DLC. On top of that Nintendo will give away field mice, turtles and 50 bucks to anyone who picks one up!

Man, I love childish rumors. Reminds me of that image of the console after the 64 that that kid drew up. I can fit a bunch of non realistic dreams into a nintendo console and say itll be out tomorrow.
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jmizzal
October 29, 2009 at 1:28 pm
@coffeewithchess
Just like that Wii price cut wasnt going to happen right?

Im not saying Wii HD is going next year but, look at what Nintendo has been doing, deny DSi till bout the last min, deny Wii price cut to the last min, then the new DSi big screen version comes outta no where and is going to be out this year in Japan. Nintendo has made so much money from Wii and DS, they can afford to go all out now, not like back in the GameCube days.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:29 pm
@Hami83
"...and POSSIBLY better online (LOLOLOLOL)"

If it's just an HD system, I won't really care, sure better graphics would be nice, and that would hopefully mean more cross-platform games available on the Wii(for Wii only owners).

The online is my main concern. If their next system still uses "friend codes" I won't be purchasing it for a long time(if ever).

@jmizzal
Exactly...and don't forget, that if you thought a price cut was happening, you were a complete IDIOT! and didn't understand Nintendo or their blue ocean strategy.
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Skireny
October 29, 2009 at 1:30 pm
HD doesn't sell consoles, the only people who still believe this are quacking analysts. Not even the majority of the hardcore sect honestly still believes this, unless they're the ones who plug their ears and go 'LALALALA' when the HD revolution proceeded to not happen and consumer apathy to it never changed.

Also 2010 is the third year a WiiHD has been predicted.

Seriously just do a google search, analysts have been talking about how a WiiHD was coming since early 2008. And considering they've been wrong about literally EVERYTHING else that isn't mind-blowingly obvious (Oh a price drop? On a console? REALLY?) and even those they're way off about when it'll happen, why the hell are we even thinking they could suddenly be right now?
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October 29, 2009 at 1:33 pm
EARLY...2010? This keeps getting crazier and crazier...if Nintendo does end up doing this, it really should be just a GBA SP style upgrade and not a whole new console (we all know what happened when SEGA pulled that). At the very least, all Wii titles released would still need to be compatible with the old Wiis, so as to split the userbase as little as possible.

I still have a hard time believing Nintendo's most successful console since the NES will only last 3 years. If Nintendo churns out an entirely new console platform (not just an enhancement) in 2010, I will change my avatar from Soren to Meg (if you've played Radiant Dawn, you what I'm talking about). You have my word.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:35 pm
@Skireny

They weren't wrong about a price cut. Analysts are usually right, it's just they tend to be WAY WAY WAYYYYY off with dates.

Everyone knows a Wii HD, or WII 2 with HD is going to happen, it's just a question of when, and with the current sales trend (Christmas may change this) the next version of the Wii seems very likely next year, or possibly the year after.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Nex gen Wii does happen next year... though, I doubt it would be early 2010.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Netflix Wii won't happen. Nintendo have their own TV/Movie channel which they don't need to shell out extra fees for.

I don't it'll happen with 'Wii HD' either. Nintendo generally go their own way technological wise, always have, always will.
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Skireny
October 29, 2009 at 1:39 pm
@Hami83

Again, a PRICE CUT. A price cut that everyone was predicting FROM JUST BEFORE THE SYSTEM CAME OUT. "It won't last, price cut soon. It won't last, price cut soon" they chanted. For years. And then it inevitably happens and well now we should just trust what analysts say, even though they've been wrong consistently about a laundry list of other things this gen.

Well alrighty then! If I stand around and predict 'momentarily' it will rain for a year, when it finally does, I will officially be a skilled weather shaman. With flawless psychic powers.

@coffeewithchess

It did go against it, actually. Which is why Nintendo was retarded for doing it. Notice how it didn't bring up Wii sales hardly at all? You know, just like it didn't do anything for Microsoft or Sony?

Dumbest thing Nintendo's done yet.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:42 pm
@Chosenoneknuckles

In Japan...NetFlix is in the USA. Nintendo likes money and I'm sure that NetFlix would have to pay Nintendo to put their service on the Wii. A perfect combination.

Nintendo just announced this DSiPhat only a month or so before it's Japanese release...what makes you believe they wouldn't wait until a month before the WiiHD to announce that?

Any new Wii wouldn't be the "next" console from Nintendo, it would just be a revision of the current hardware to improve where it needs to be improved (equivalent of the DS to DS Lite revision). The Wii install base is just too big and the name "Wii" is too recognizable worldwide for Nintendo to just move onto a new console.

I for one think that all of Nintendo's consoles for the next decade or so will have the name "Wii" in the title. They've spent too much time and money building up that brand name just to toss it out when the next console comes along. Just like Sony and their "PlayStation" brand.
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Inneverate
October 29, 2009 at 1:44 pm
@jmizzal

"Just like that Wii price cut wasnt going to happen right?"

That was the ONLY time analysts got lucky with their asinine predictions. How about I bring up the dozens of bullshit that were proven false over the last few years?

God, I worry about the state of mind of majority of you if you are so quick to believe this drivel.

@Jet Pilot

"Nintendo just announced this DSiPhat only a month or so before it's Japanese release...what makes you believe they wouldn't wait until a month before the WiiHD to announce that? "

Because this is just a bigger DSi unit, what this analyst is trying to claim is that they'll announce an entirely new system mere weeks before it launches
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October 29, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Early next year... WTF?
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October 29, 2009 at 1:45 pm
This is the first comment where I actually believe the Wii HD is coming....and yes, I cant imagine Nintendo releasing it without finding a way too successfully run standard definition Wii games on it, so it should be interesting to see what happens...


YAY for console revisions!!!
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October 29, 2009 at 1:46 pm
@Rapidash6

Sorry buddy, but 1010 was a real long time ago. However this Dan seems to think that the next Nintedo console will be out 1000 years from then. Take from that what you will.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:47 pm
@Jet Pilot

Yeah... And it'll head to the west next year.

Netflix would just make them lose money out of:

1) Having to pay the fee to use it
2) The lack of interest the service would have without HD resolutions

Why go through all that when they go so right now without shelling out extra monies?
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October 29, 2009 at 1:47 pm
@Skireny

Skireny's right, coffee. Just because Nintendo did something dumb and isn't following Blue Ocean Strategy in regards to their pricing, that doesn't mean everybody who thought they weren't suddenly moronic is an idiot. Nintendo clearly are the ones who did something unhelpful, not the fans.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:51 pm
@Inneverate

That's where you're missing the point. The "WiiHD" is NOT and entirely new system. It's an upgrade to the current console. A hardware revision which will include some new features to boost sales. Just as the DS Lite was and upgrade to the DS.

The DS revisions (all three of them) were announced only a couple months (or less) before they hit the shops in Japan.

@Chosenoneknuckles

Because the fee that NetFlix would pay Nintendo would be small compared to the amount of potential new subscriptions they could get from the 25 million Wii owners in the USA.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:53 pm
WiiHD I can't take it anymore.
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Inneverate
October 29, 2009 at 1:54 pm
@Jet Pilot

It's rumored to have better processing power and more ram (which are needed if they want to do 1080P), an entirely new format, a new library of exclusive games which uses these new specs and other things that are not typically found in revisions. IT IS A NEW SYSTEM
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Skireny
October 29, 2009 at 1:54 pm
@Jet Pilot

No, sorry. That's retarded. Putting HD into a system would be a big change, make more work, higher costs, etc. It is not a small thing. It's only a small thing in how much people give a crap about it.
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October 29, 2009 at 1:57 pm
@Jet Pilot

Again, my two points.

- They have a channel running already [no extra fees], the west will likely get it next year.

- Lack of HD resolutions would likely turn off all traditional gamers here and elsewhere in the garden that is the interwebs from shelling out for it, the expanded audience may or may not even be bothered with it [probably having better solutions in their lives already].

Thus, Netflix on the Wii would be pointless, IMHO.

You can have a laugh if I turn out to be wrong on this if you really want.

This 'Wii HD' upgrade is also laughable [but then it was from GAF, the elitist mob].
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October 29, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Wii hardware sales are increasing weekly and are now down only 9% to this week last year, it ends up.
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October 29, 2009 at 2:15 pm
@WiiLikeSportz

@Skireny

I'm not arguing whether Nintendo did or didn't follow a "blue ocean" strategy with a price drop...I'm just saying people like Inneverate were just adamant that a price drop WASN'T going to happen:

Inneverate, on Sept. 11th:
"THERE IS NO PRICE DROP PLANNED

How many times must we go through with this. Every gloom and doom prediction about the Wii has failed to happen, yet people are so eager to believe more."


Inneverate, on Sept. 10th:
"Except the situation behind the GameCube is much different than the Wii, not to mention they follow a different philosophy now. Hell, with price cuts at the end of August, the Wii still ended up outselling both the PS3 and Wii.

The Wii will not see a price drop."
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October 29, 2009 at 2:32 pm
^ :lol: :lol: And Jet Pilot could be right, you know. Just like the DS to DS Lite to DSi...the same thing could happen to the Wii with a different revision.
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October 29, 2009 at 2:33 pm
@coffeewithchess

Reminds me of the people who buy into the PR that Nintendo IS NOT competing with Microsoft or Sony yet they cut the Wii's price so shortly after Sony and Microsoft...

Oh but they did it because the time was right and they were not influenced whatsoever because they don't compete with anyone!

:D
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chintendo
October 29, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I don't know eh. Nintendo always has tricks up their sleeves. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the new Zelda was simultaneously released with the new iteration of the Wii.

hey it's possible.
Happened when Twilight Princess was released on both gamecube and Wii.
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October 29, 2009 at 3:23 pm
@coffeewithchess

Ha! Nintendo disrupted themselves in order to disrupt the disruptency..

Shows what you know about Nintendo.
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October 29, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Wii HD is coming next year, people! Not Wii 2.

The DSi LL/XL/Husky just proves that Nintendo isn't even close into making 2's out of the DS and Wii brand just yet.
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October 29, 2009 at 3:37 pm
@bunny-cow

'Wii HD is coming next year, people! Not Wii 2.

You wish it was you mean. ;-)
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October 29, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I said it yesterday, and i'll say it again: A lot of things are pointing in the direction of a wii revision(hd) coming out very soon. 2010 would be soooo bad ass. Analysts can be wrong alot, but the signs are coming from more than one area of industry. You have to think that NATAL and Sony Wand are coming out next year, so this and the vitality sensor might be Nintendo's answer to that. It'll be fun to see how things turn out leading up until the next e3.
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ronnande
October 29, 2009 at 9:51 pm
I know for sure that nintendo was demoing a Wii HD prototype to select third party developers at the end of 2008. So this rumor may not be totally unlikely really. At least here in Europe HD have really taken off during the last year or so, and have become quite a buzz among the general consumers here.
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oronll
October 29, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Yeah it seems Nintendo is focusing on timely small updates.

A wii HD next year wouldn't surprise me in the least. ANd I would buy one day one.
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October 29, 2009 at 11:12 pm
i actually hope they do, because i was watching videos on the wii while my computer was being fixed (aka being bought and shipped) and i have to say that everything looked really nasty.

an hd wii would be really nice to watch movies on, but not the current model.

actually a "wii 2" would be fitting seeings as how everyone else, who isn't in the casual market is asking for more, so a wii 2 wouldn't be far off the mark.

i'm wondering if they'll do a wii with HD and perhaps an HD for wii...but then we'd fall into the sega cd and 32x nightmares all over again.
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October 30, 2009 at 12:54 am
@Nez

Cause supporting two consoles at once worked out so well for the GBA.
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October 30, 2009 at 5:24 am
A Wii HD will not surprise me but I still wonder how the heck they will approach it...Not to mention when they'll release it. If they did release it early next year, no way I'd be able to get my hands on one until at least the fall/winter.

I'm wondering whether they will do a new console with the same idea but different guts or if they'll just do a revision akin to DS Lite over original DS or GBA SP to original GBA.

If they do the latter that might shoot them in the foot later when the other console release totally brand new hardware, but honestly, in my opinion, I think everyone would be better served waiting another few years to launch new hardware...
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oronll
October 30, 2009 at 5:36 am
to METRO!Dgamer

It would be the same games on two different consoles.. with basically the same specs. Just like the DS and DSXL.
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October 30, 2009 at 9:55 am
@METRO!Dgamer

"Cause supporting two consoles at once worked out so well for the GBA."

but it did save Sony's ass lol.

Wii skus and Wii HD skus would fall into basically the same territory as the multiple Skus that PS3 and 360 have.

I'm kind of in agreement with D3stiny Sm4sher waiting to put out an entirely new console with HD technology and whatever new control method they come up with would be better
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