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Some bad news coming out of Australia that is hopefully a rumor. We hear that New Super Mario Bros. Wii has actually been leaked in Australia, and pirates are already spreading the game around. Of course, Nintendo has once again tried to stop pirates from getting any use out of the game.
This time, it seems that a pirated version of the game will let you play anywhere from 3 to 7 minutes, and then you'll get a disc read error. Unfortunately, pirates are already working through this issue. Thanks to Underyx for the heads up!
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not wii sports resort.
wii sports.
Damn pirates.
wow, who in their right mind would make a rom of that? XD
But it'll probably be working by tomorrow.
For the record, I've downloaded a few songs back in my time, it was 5 plus years ago that I last did it, and stopped due to the fact that I didn't like being a thief.
yeah I know
GOOD!
Bad, and hopefully they won't be successful!
GoNintendo: "So NSMBWii is said to be leaked"
Someone reading: "Great, time to go look for it"
That's how things end up.
That's how you think things end up.
I'm very sure the people that pirate games often have their own despicable forum, with all the latest leaks and links.
Anyone who really cares about piracy would be subscribed to a source that gives them updated information on scene releases. By the time RMC even post about the leak, they'll be too busy playing it to read it.
Funny thing is I bet some of these people commenting on this are downloading a song right now off limewire or some crap like that lol.
I still don't think RMC should post this kind of news but it's his site he can do what he wants. It seems Nintendo never contacts him to stop it so whatever.
This game getting leaked isn't going to hurt its sales. It's MARIO for crying out loud.
Right, and a game like New Super Mario Bros. Wii? Piracy isn't gonna effect the sales at all.
I'm also getting Nostalgia i tried it out and liked it and hey I'd like to see another one so I'll buy it for support like i was gonna do Scribblenauts, but I didn't really care for the game so I wasn't wasting my money. Some people try before buy i know two people that play roms to try the game out. Not all pirates are bad.
If one person pirates for every fifty who buy, and this game sells five million... you realize that's a hundred thousand pirated copies? And you also realize that that's a LOT of lost money, right?
I'd rather we didn't acknowledge the pirates among us on here [and out there]. It's more than they deserve.
Or simply what @Jet Pilot said. Well said man!
@Inneverate
You guys don't know the people I know then, They pirate upon release dates but sometimes check blog sites like this one for usual Nintendo news, when stuff like this gets posted, they make a note of it.
No one is calling you the devil...just a thief.
You can try to justify your theft as much as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you are stealing.
It's simple...if you don't have enough money for video games then you should find a cheaper hobby. I'd like to collect classic cars but I don't have the money. Does that mean that I have the right to go out and steal cars?
The entitlement mentality of this generations is just astounding. You guys think that just because you want something that you are entitled to take it. How sad. That's exactly why the economy is in the mess that it is in. People felt entitled to houses even though they couldn't afford them. They took out BS mortgages they knew they could never pay back and then complained when the foreclosure man came and tried to blame someone else.
No, any intelligent pirate checks newsgroups daily as well as common scene indexing sites.
Pirates are notorious for being able to crack just about anything, I've literally not heard of anything that lasts a couple of days without being fully hacked into.
So unfortunately pirates will win.
Also fun fact: the game is 375mb of game data. The rest of the 4.5 gb disc is dummy data.
Go figure.
Stealing a game is just that. Taking a physical a game for yourself, denying anyone else use of that product.
Pirating a game is like taking a magical machine that will make a clone of that game, but leave the original product alone.
Sure, they lost a large sum of money from the piracy. But don't you think the game would give them well enough profit?
Honestly, though this is the only case where I can say it, but if NSMBWii gets leaked from Australia and hence results in a loss of local profit, it's Nintendo Australia's own damned fault for marking the prices of games so high.
@Jet Pilot
You just said it all man..
Seriously, people in here trying to justify doing something wrong just because they lack the means to get it legit.. Is like thiefs who mug people because they don't have a job to obtain money.
I know.. "well, copying a game isn't near as wrong as mugging".. but in the end someone is feeling the effect of your actions.
Don't mean to preach and neither I'm trying to come of as a saint but using that silly line of "all the people calling out on pirates have dowloaded a song or a movie" don't apply to everyone.
Anyways.. Is not like anything is going to change. People are just going to keep being people.
Except that it isn't lost sales/money at all. You have no proof that the people who pirated the game would buy it if pirating was not an option. They could just as easily go without it.
@Seroth
This. I hate it when people think pirating is stealing. You can't steal something that there are literally an infinite amount of (the actually software that is).
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Also, I'd like to point this out;
http://kotaku.com/5399193/trials-dev-pi ... e-interest
RedLynx leaked their own game to the web (minus leader boards) day one because they knew that it would act as a sort of demo for the full version. And since it has most of the features a full version download has not hit the web. They used Piracy to their advantage and I applaud them for it. More people need to see it as a tool for pushing products and sales.
Yes, they could just as easily go without it.. unless they end up liking what they stole and there is one less legit item that its creator didn't get remuneration for.
If they weren't going to buy the game in the first place, they were never a technical buyer.
In this case, their pirating of a title is no different from if a title gets sold at a garage sale, or borrowed, or bought used at a store, or on eBay, etc. The company does not see profit from those purchases.
Face it, pirates aren't doing anything. They aren't entitled to anything, but they are also not doing anything to the sales of games since they had no intent on buying it.
If people actually want the game to own, and want more of the type of title, they'll buy it. Is it unfair to you, since you spend your money on these games? Yes. It is. But that's only affecting you, and you alone.
Think about movies. Music.
You've never downloaded a song illegally (before stuff like iTunes let you buy single songs; or after, lol) because you just liked the song and didn't want the whole album?
Or an album wasn't coming to the US?
None of you have ever downloaded a show/movie to watch online? Or watched one on YouTube that was uploaded by a generic user?
Or better yet, you've never recorded a movie on a VHS in the past, so you could rewatch it over and over, rather than buy the movie?
I find that hard to believe.
This. Piracy is always going to be around. Yeah, the developers won't see any money, but there's nothing that can be done about it. They also don't see any money from used game sales.
And yeah, if someone is pirating a game, chances are, they weren't planning on buying it anyway. And there are also people out there who will pirate a game just to try it out before deciding if they really want to buy it or not.
Piracy is illegal. M'kay?
Depends where you at.
EXACTLY!!..
@MoldyClay
I don't mean to keep preaching and dragging this any longer because I have made my views on piracy clear before but what kind of logic is: "If someone pirates a game, they weren't going to buy the game in the first place."???
If were to pirate something is because I'm interested in it and/or can't afford it or just don't want to pay for it.
And even if that was true, if I end up liking what I pirated the original item would't be purchased in the first place.
Also, an item bought in a garage sale is different because the previous owner bought before you.
Like I said, I don't mean to keep dragging but some of the reasons to justify pirating here are beyond my understanding... Sorry also because I ussualy see things your way.
Exactly. By letting people know that the latest game has been pirated, that just makes it easier for the pirates to find it. -_-;
T.H.I.S.
Piracy is nothing new. I can understand that people would get upset, but come on. Games like this always end up getting pirated.
The game will still sell a million or so copies anyway. So why worry?
What are you the creator of that retarded movie preview commercial "You wouldn't download a car would you?"
and yes, yes I would.
This. Everything you said is what was on my mind.
If it's not yours and you take it without permission then it is stealing. It doesn't matter how many copies are available. Very simple. Stop trying to justify your illegal actions because it just makes you look dumb.
I completely agree with you. However, in regards to the stuff about the economy, the reason the US is in a mess right now is not because of people who took out mortgages that they couldn't pay back - it's because of those greedy bastards on Wall Street. Trust me I work in banking (not in the US and thank God, we have nothing to do with what happened) so we know exactly who's to be blamed- greedy a****** on Wall St., credit agencies, and Alan Greenspan. But what you said about piracy is absolutely correct.
This. Stop worrying guys, you should worry about games like Madworld and such. Not Mario.
I pirated Sin and Punishment 2, but I'm still going to buy it when it come out in America. I don't know how many people on here will buy it, but I'm better than everyone who wont buy it, because I'm supporting the game, right? (all my posts seem like a poorly assorted jumble of thoughts)
EVERYone here has or currently is pirating music. You can't have double standards.
Go outside to a forest. Pick up a stick. Come back.
Is that stick yours? No. Did you ask to take it? No. Is it considered stealing? No.
The point Im trying to make is that you can't apply that logic to everything. Your making this much more black and white then it is.
Essentially your argument can be summarized in one sentence; The law is the law, its illegal to break the law.
This is Circular logic though, a fallacy. You are not offering any actual evidence to support your argument. As well, you are using the fallacy, Appeal to Common Practice. Just because its common for 'good' people to say that piracy is wrong doesn't make it so. 'Good' is a matter of perspective.
As well, you used Personal Attack (another fallacy) to try and make me look bad. Now, I could take the low road and do that as well, but I won't, because then I really will be dumb. And I am not trying to justify my actions. I don't need too, because I am morally okay with what I do. I am also not trying to convince you that piracy is right. I merely gave some evidence (something you have yet to do) in favour of my side, in hopes that others, like yourself, might start thinking for themselves, rather then blinding following others. At the end of the day, if you do start thinking for yourself, I won't care if you still support anti-piracy or not. All I want is people to actually sit down and consider what I have to say, rather then just shoot it back at me. But I thought like you once, so I know that its hard to do.
Of course it's not stealing. That stick was not created by someone. That stick didn't take someone's time and money to create. That stick is not made with the intention of being sold. That stick is not on shelves with a price tag. If you wanna make a point, at least use a good example dude >_>
The stick is on someone's property. The property costs someone money each year to maintain and hold onto. The stick, if the owner wanted, could be dried and sold as tinder with other sticks or in a mulch mix. Just because its not currently 'on a self with a price tag' doesn't mean its not a resource for the property owner. It still has value even though its a stick, but you wouldn't get arrested over it, because its value is low ans there are literally millions upon millions of sticks out there. It is technically stealing under the law because its someone else's property, but that is my point. You don't see it as stealing because it has such low value.
Digital content also have a low value because they are in infinite supply. Its all about supply and demand. The more you have of something, the less valuable it is. As of now game prices are marked up way way to much, your essentially paying 40-60 dollars for a plastic case and some paper. Something which you can get for a lot cheaper. If prices on games were lower the amount of pirates would decrease.
As for laws evolving, business is evolving too. This is a crucial time, because if we can come up with a way for content to be given away for sold for dirt cheap then we can change the law and business for the better. Imagine if you will a world where You can download a game for free, or if your a fan of physical media, buy it dirt cheap, all while companies still make the same amount of money as they do now. This future is quite possible, there are already methods that have worked to make money and give stuff away. Such as free content being accessed by viewing a few ads on the side (such as many torrent sites are already), and naming your own price for both digital and physical goods. Reports show that the World of Goo name your price (you could pay as low as a penny, pc version only) made a lot of money, including boosting the sales of the wiiware version, which was not discounted at all.
"And besides, if you use the "stealing only applies to tangible things" then you're dumb."
If you are so sure of what you're saying, then explain how taking something(in a situation where the owner loses the item in question) is exactly equivalent to copying(where the owner still has the item in question)?
The acts are so different from each other that it is an impoverishment of the English language to use the same word to describe both.
Hahah like if you bought Madworld and such
Well, you're 100% correct. They were obviously interested in the game, but there are tons of games that I can be interested in, but have no desire to purchase.
For example, I have fun playing Mario Kart Wii, but I would never want to own it, for my own reasons.
I'm not saying this JUSTIFIES justifies pirating, though.
Do people just pirate for not wanting to spend money? Yes. All the time. But it's nothing new, and people need to stop acting like it is.
I am not going to lie, I have played pirate games on my Wii, however, games I intend to buy, I stopped playing.
Also, I have a pirated copy of Fragile, but as soon as they announced the US version, I stuffed it away.
Oh, and I have played, Castlevania Judgment, pirated, for the purpose of seeing if it really was as bad as it looked. I wasn't about to spend money on a game that looked and sounded that bad, and I am glad I didn't. I didn't even label the DVD, in hopes that I lose it somewhere because I hated that game so much.
As far as garage sale items, with a few exceptions, almost all pirated games come from someone actually buying the game and dumping it for the internet.
For example, NSMBW leaked because stores are selling it early in Australia, so someone bought it and dumped it online. So there was indeed a previous owner, however, they still keep it, much like if I buy a CD, copy it to the computer, and put it up online for friends to download.
The same is true of WiiWare and VC games. Someone has to buy them first, before they get dumped.
But no, I totally understand, and I wasn't trying to justify piracy.
I was just saying, it shouldn't be so surprising, and it's not affecting as much as people say it does.
In some cases, yes, it does. But in situations like this, a Mario title, it's not going to affect anything.
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In vaguely related news, people got around this, but it won't work from a disc at all. They have to use it from SD/USB, and have to patch it. lol.
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