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Deux posted up some new scans of Spirit Tracks earlier in the night, but I wanted to bring some attention to this.
Looks like Niko might be making a return! Either that, or it's a descendant of Niko...that just so happens to wear the same clothes!
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November 11, 2009 at 8:44 pm
I know it's highly unlikely, but it might be the same Niko. I could totally imagine that guy being over 100 years old.
@mariomaniac45213
Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass.
@mariomaniac45213
Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass.
November 11, 2009 at 8:47 pm
He's one of the crew members in The Wind Waker. I'm guessing he'll have an important roll in the story like he tried to save Tetra from dying but doesn't succeed or something like that. Or maybe he survived to tell his grandkids the story of him and his adventures.
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November 11, 2009 at 8:53 pm
@mariomanic45213
Windwaker and phantom hour glass.
If it is niko spirit tracks must be less then 114 years after wind waker (based on people die before 124* years and niko was AT THE VERY LEAST 10 years old in wind waker.)
*I beleave the record is still 122 years but I gave 2 exta years.
Windwaker and phantom hour glass.
If it is niko spirit tracks must be less then 114 years after wind waker (based on people die before 124* years and niko was AT THE VERY LEAST 10 years old in wind waker.)
*I beleave the record is still 122 years but I gave 2 exta years.
November 11, 2009 at 9:40 pm
@Traviswiifan
Yeah hmm I coulda swore the lady that died like prolly a year or 2 ago was 128 oh well.. man 120 years of living...
Yeah hmm I coulda swore the lady that died like prolly a year or 2 ago was 128 oh well.. man 120 years of living...
November 11, 2009 at 9:44 pm
It's hilarious when people try and figure out a timeline for Zelda games when really most of the time Nintendo is just lazy with their art direction and just reuse graphics/designs from older games.
November 11, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Yeah the fact that the character looks like a really old Niko and the fact that Anjean looks like an old Tetra (and knowing SP Zelda's ancestors) makes this whole thing really suspicious...
November 11, 2009 at 10:12 pm
@deitylink101
Well you might be right. so let's say people die before 129, which would make this at most 139 years after windwaker.
Well you might be right. so let's say people die before 129, which would make this at most 139 years after windwaker.
November 11, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Just so you guys all know, Hylians aren't humans, and they aren't bound by our aging rules.
I'm pretty sure Spirit Tracks is only 100 years ahead of Phantom Hourglass, though.
Wanna know something REALLY bizarre?
Shad and Mako.
They both wear glasses, but that's not the bizarre part. From Mako's trophy in TWW:
"Not many know this, but he keeps a knife hidden in that thick book of his."
Hmm...
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda ... f/Shad.png
@Hami83
Except that never happened.
Zelda 1 & 2 use similar art styles, but Link ages between the two games and the are blatantly together.
ALttP and LA reuse the same art style because they are direct sequels.
OoT and MM are direct sequels and use similar art (MM's is more stylized).
Oracles use the same are because they are the same games, and direct sequels. Their art also reflects ALttP/LA's to show possible connection.
The Wind Waker's exact art style is reused by both Four Swords games, then it was cleaned up and a better version was used for The Minish Cap. This style was also revamped and a better version has been used in PH and Spirit Tracks.
TWW/PH/ST are all direct sequels, TMC/FS/FSA are all sequels as well.
TP,LCT and the new Wii Zelda use the same art style because they are probably related.
So the only style re-used lazily was TWW's originally (some art is flat out the same, between TWW/FS/FSA), and that's it.
Generally, using the same art style is to indicate it's the same Link, or related games.
Not to mention, you say this when the character is blatantly the same.
I'm pretty sure Spirit Tracks is only 100 years ahead of Phantom Hourglass, though.
Wanna know something REALLY bizarre?
Shad and Mako.
They both wear glasses, but that's not the bizarre part. From Mako's trophy in TWW:
"Not many know this, but he keeps a knife hidden in that thick book of his."
Hmm...
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda ... f/Shad.png
@Hami83
Except that never happened.
Zelda 1 & 2 use similar art styles, but Link ages between the two games and the are blatantly together.
ALttP and LA reuse the same art style because they are direct sequels.
OoT and MM are direct sequels and use similar art (MM's is more stylized).
Oracles use the same are because they are the same games, and direct sequels. Their art also reflects ALttP/LA's to show possible connection.
The Wind Waker's exact art style is reused by both Four Swords games, then it was cleaned up and a better version was used for The Minish Cap. This style was also revamped and a better version has been used in PH and Spirit Tracks.
TWW/PH/ST are all direct sequels, TMC/FS/FSA are all sequels as well.
TP,LCT and the new Wii Zelda use the same art style because they are probably related.
So the only style re-used lazily was TWW's originally (some art is flat out the same, between TWW/FS/FSA), and that's it.
Generally, using the same art style is to indicate it's the same Link, or related games.
Not to mention, you say this when the character is blatantly the same.
November 11, 2009 at 10:48 pm
@MoldyClay
(just to reinforce your post)
Also it's called consistency. It's not like Nintendo only does this. People want consistency when a sequel comes so reusing an art style is not necessarily lazy.
The style is still appealing so why change it?
(just to reinforce your post)
Also it's called consistency. It's not like Nintendo only does this. People want consistency when a sequel comes so reusing an art style is not necessarily lazy.
The style is still appealing so why change it?
November 11, 2009 at 11:27 pm
@moldyclay you mean twight princess and wind waker right?
edit:Also the hylian may not be humans but they're strongly based on them, in fact aonuma called hylians human in an interview with nintendo power* (which they did in celebration of 10 years of ocarina of time)
Also niko looks like he's 60 or 70 not 100+
*this couple with in game evendence suggest that they are purposefully making sure to make hylians as close to human as possible.
Double edit:is niko a hylian? we never found out for 100% sure. He probally is though.
edit:Also the hylian may not be humans but they're strongly based on them, in fact aonuma called hylians human in an interview with nintendo power* (which they did in celebration of 10 years of ocarina of time)
Also niko looks like he's 60 or 70 not 100+
*this couple with in game evendence suggest that they are purposefully making sure to make hylians as close to human as possible.
Double edit:is niko a hylian? we never found out for 100% sure. He probally is though.
November 12, 2009 at 2:39 am
it would have to be his son, seeing as the past zelda generation has died out. Nintendo have a habbit of putting in similar looking zelda characters in each game/
November 12, 2009 at 5:42 am
Yay! I'm happy that he's in the game. I wonder if Linebeck is also going to appear?
November 12, 2009 at 7:04 am
I have an idea, if you want him to be the same he's the same. If you don't then he's not!
November 12, 2009 at 9:15 am
This is so exciting!! To have experienced so much...I really hope he turns out to be awakened as the "Sage of Knowledge" or something along those lines. As exciting as it is, people seem to forget that this has happened before: Kaepora Gaebora mentored several Links, King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule I was around for the Hero of Time, the next Hero that failed before the flood, and The Hero of Winds, and a few others I'd need to check on. This reminds me of the old days of timeline theorizing when I was little, thinking the old man who gives you the Triforce of Courage at the end of Zelda II was the Hero of Time before new games came in and muddled where that triforce went from game to game. Anyways...woo!
November 12, 2009 at 11:12 am
Do we have to keep putting spoilers up without just telling them after the jump.
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Sorry for my stupidity but which Zelda is he from?