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June 23, 2009 by RawmeatCowboy
Filed Under: Wii
A portion of a GamePro review...
Faulty controls and an utterly confusing story hamper down what could've been an otherwise fantastic title, but even with its shortcomings, The Conduit serves as a fun, interesting take on the FPS genre for the Wii.
Seriously...faulty controls?! High Voltage went out of their way to let you customize every aspect of the game, including controls. You can make the game control almost any way imaginable! How can controls be a complaint?!
Story Feedback
Faulty... Controls...?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!... are they playing the same game?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!... are they playing the same game?
Okay, I was going to read the review to scour it for any mention of customizable controls, but I reached one particular excerpt and could go no further;
"...what does it say about the Wii that The Conduit doesn't blow Goldeneye's graphics out of the water the way Halo 3 outshines the original Halo or Killzone 2 completely destroys the original Killzone?"
The Conduit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF7d0LXpQyo
Goldeneye: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj1z7F5BkyM
Yeah, not goin' back to GamePro again.
The Duck Has Spoken.
"...what does it say about the Wii that The Conduit doesn't blow Goldeneye's graphics out of the water the way Halo 3 outshines the original Halo or Killzone 2 completely destroys the original Killzone?"
The Conduit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF7d0LXpQyo
Goldeneye: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj1z7F5BkyM
Yeah, not goin' back to GamePro again.
The Duck Has Spoken.
What?!
Im not one to complain about a reviewers opinion but this is tragic.
They've completely ignored 2 of the games main selling points in my opinion.
Im not one to complain about a reviewers opinion but this is tragic.
They've completely ignored 2 of the games main selling points in my opinion.
lol wow fail, seriously I am far from a conduit fanboy but really?
UPDATE
I just read it and saw the score, really what the f***? you slam the game into the ground and then give it a 3.5? what is going on here?
Another UPDATE.
"Turning your viewpoint is smooth and there are menu options that let you customize pretty much every aspect of the interface that you could want. I played with the default and was absolutely happy with it."
WHAT THE HELL? this review makes no sense what so ever. Please kill this guy he fails at life, his job, and gaming.
UPDATE
I just read it and saw the score, really what the f***? you slam the game into the ground and then give it a 3.5? what is going on here?
Another UPDATE.
"Turning your viewpoint is smooth and there are menu options that let you customize pretty much every aspect of the interface that you could want. I played with the default and was absolutely happy with it."
WHAT THE HELL? this review makes no sense what so ever. Please kill this guy he fails at life, his job, and gaming.
Is is just me or did he say he didn't play the multiplayer, and he is the one reviewing the game. Also, how the hell could you say bad controls when you can customize every. single. aspect. I am not just saying this because I'm a fanboy, we have seen tons of videos that show off this feature!!!
Does anyone know how to get in contact with editors over at GamePro???
Does anyone know how to get in contact with editors over at GamePro???
Faulty controls?
Oh wow did this guy even bother checking the options section?
Someone fire the guy
Oh wow did this guy even bother checking the options section?
Someone fire the guy
Okay, I'm reading in to it...
He did NOT play online, that's half... maybe more then half of the game right there.
They beat and beat on the graphics, saying that it has horrible muddy texture, then says its the best the Wii could do.
As a reviewer, he SKIPPED the cutscences, what?!
He complains about terrible controls, they are 100% customizable...
I could nitpick all day.
This guy isn't fit to be a reviewer.
I don't care if he liked it or not, but as a reviewer, he should of tried everything the game had to offer.
He did NOT play online, that's half... maybe more then half of the game right there.
They beat and beat on the graphics, saying that it has horrible muddy texture, then says its the best the Wii could do.
As a reviewer, he SKIPPED the cutscences, what?!
He complains about terrible controls, they are 100% customizable...
I could nitpick all day.
This guy isn't fit to be a reviewer.
I don't care if he liked it or not, but as a reviewer, he should of tried everything the game had to offer.
I don't normally take honest offense with a review (aside from throwing out details I found flat out false) since hey, it's just a review... But this, wow.
It's like either it's a troll review, or no one can deny there's no anti-Wii bias in some reviews ever again. It's been a long time since I've seen a so-called professional review actually make up so much.
edit: Reading over more, it HAS to be a troll. It has to. Every single detail is either contradictory, a flat out lie, or caused by the reviewer's own incompetence and actions like skipping cutscenes and then crying about how the story doesn't make sense.
How surreal.
It's like either it's a troll review, or no one can deny there's no anti-Wii bias in some reviews ever again. It's been a long time since I've seen a so-called professional review actually make up so much.
edit: Reading over more, it HAS to be a troll. It has to. Every single detail is either contradictory, a flat out lie, or caused by the reviewer's own incompetence and actions like skipping cutscenes and then crying about how the story doesn't make sense.
How surreal.
"after wrestling with the terrible controls"
"I'd go so far as to say it's the best I've seen in a Wii title. Turning your viewpoint is smooth and there are menu options that let you customize pretty much every aspect of the interface that you could want. I played with the default and was absolutely happy with it."
is this guy bipolar
this guy smells like he lived under a bridge
"I'd go so far as to say it's the best I've seen in a Wii title. Turning your viewpoint is smooth and there are menu options that let you customize pretty much every aspect of the interface that you could want. I played with the default and was absolutely happy with it."
is this guy bipolar
this guy smells like he lived under a bridge
Some of you are too young to remember the days of GamePro when Sega could do no wrong, and Nintendo was hit and miss... Sorry no hope and change here
Somebody post the e-mail to gamepro's editor or staff or whatever, so that we can all write to them without driving their hit count up.
It's payback time.
IGN were like: "it features the most customizable, precise and enjoyable controls of ANY console shooter created, hands down."
emphasis mine. Embarrassment gamepro's.
It's payback time.
IGN were like: "it features the most customizable, precise and enjoyable controls of ANY console shooter created, hands down."
emphasis mine. Embarrassment gamepro's.
GamePro has been terrible since it began. Their coverage and reviews were always a joke even back then. EGM was the mag to go to for quality content. Which makes it a crying shame that GamePro somehow servived, while EGM died. At least EGM's coming back now though, so maybe there is some justice still in the world.
those people are faulty if they can't customize the controls to their taste.
If someone has an account with them, link them back to this comments page.
If someone has an account with them, link them back to this comments page.
See, if this guy can get a job in games journalism I'm so going to make it.
How could he have reviewed it without even playing the multiplayer? Isnt that one of the main draws of several FPS's out there?
And he whines about the motion controls, when he could have easily replaced them with a button.
First, he disses the controls big time, then he says thy're some of the best on Wii. Huh?
Finally, he says the graphics are horrible. Is this guy blind or something? The only the way the graphics would look bad is if he would be playing on an ancient antenna TV made back in the 60's
And he whines about the motion controls, when he could have easily replaced them with a button.
First, he disses the controls big time, then he says thy're some of the best on Wii. Huh?
Finally, he says the graphics are horrible. Is this guy blind or something? The only the way the graphics would look bad is if he would be playing on an ancient antenna TV made back in the 60's
I'm sure someone will be by to defend this guy, but this review really is indefensible. There is NO way the comment about GoldenEye is justifiable, so please, don't even try.
Can you imagine if someone reviewed Halo 3 without playing the online multiplayer? There would be an outrage!
Do I need to say it? This is why gaming journalism is load of crap. There's not giving a game a fair shake, there's editorializing how much you value the presentation benefits of the HD twins in every review, and then there's just plain misrepresentation. If you can tell something is blatant bullshit without even needing to play the game, you know someone needs to be fired.
@token
Exactly. The only reason this has happened is because it's on Wii.
If The Conduit were on another system, it may have been generic yes, but they still will have tried the online multiplayer.
Exactly. The only reason this has happened is because it's on Wii.
If The Conduit were on another system, it may have been generic yes, but they still will have tried the online multiplayer.
@token
Exactly, bc you only get about 5-7 hours out of single player on any Halo game.
The controls on Wii FPS games are what I really like about them.
I've been playing COD:WaW on the Wii since January and the game is an absolute blast for the single player and multi player, and it's got a lot to do with the controls.
I played Half-Life 2, and I just couldn't get into the game as much, even though I beat it, I was missing the Wii controls.
Exactly, bc you only get about 5-7 hours out of single player on any Halo game.
The controls on Wii FPS games are what I really like about them.
I've been playing COD:WaW on the Wii since January and the game is an absolute blast for the single player and multi player, and it's got a lot to do with the controls.
I played Half-Life 2, and I just couldn't get into the game as much, even though I beat it, I was missing the Wii controls.
I'm surprised they let this review be published. On them, I guess. I wonder how many people will be swayed by it.
I'm not usually one to quibble with reviews because they're opinions... but I'm getting the impression that this guy is working under an uninformed opinion.
And it looks like a lot of GamePro's own readers are taking issue with the review as well. It may be worth watching to see what happens with this.
And it looks like a lot of GamePro's own readers are taking issue with the review as well. It may be worth watching to see what happens with this.
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MIKE WEIGAND
Managing Editor
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Senior Editor
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TAE KIM
Reviews Editor
tkim@gamepro.com
TRAVIS MOSES
Previews Editor
tmoses@gamepro.com
CHRIS PARISI
Video Editor
cparisi@gamepro.com
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@coffeewithchess
THANK YOU! Now we all write. ALLLLLL of us!
here just paste this in the 'to' part of your e-mail
tkim@gamepro.com, gjones@gamepro.com,
mweigand@gamepro.com, sshuman@gamepro.com, tmoses@gamepro.com,
aburt@gamepro.com
Then tell them what you REALLY think!
----Transcript of my E-mail.---
Your site lost -any- scrap of credibility it might have had with the horribly unprofessional and darn near meaningless contradictory wad of statements that constitute the 'Review' for 'The Conduit.' What do you take your readership for, idiots? Well, anybody who keeps reading anything on your site is just that, so I suppose in a way you are right.
Whether the reviewer is merely a snobby elitiest HD pig or has literally been PAID by microsoft to write the slanderous and obviously untrue garbage that made up the bulk of his review, it is clear that his subjective statements have all been made with no attention to what he was talking about. The man was out to prove a point and said whatever he had to to keep up the premise that the Wii is underpowered blah blah blah.
Gaming journalism is going down a gutter and the fact that you let this slip by and even PAID for it is EXACTLY the reason why. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, but at least base that opinion on FACT.
Don't worry: I'm not alone in my condemnation of your utterly transparent motives and I'm sure this isn't the last such letter you will be receiving. But it is the last time I will bother paying ANY attention to ANYTHING that comes from your site.
THANK YOU! Now we all write. ALLLLLL of us!
here just paste this in the 'to' part of your e-mail
tkim@gamepro.com, gjones@gamepro.com,
mweigand@gamepro.com, sshuman@gamepro.com, tmoses@gamepro.com,
aburt@gamepro.com
Then tell them what you REALLY think!
----Transcript of my E-mail.---
Your site lost -any- scrap of credibility it might have had with the horribly unprofessional and darn near meaningless contradictory wad of statements that constitute the 'Review' for 'The Conduit.' What do you take your readership for, idiots? Well, anybody who keeps reading anything on your site is just that, so I suppose in a way you are right.
Whether the reviewer is merely a snobby elitiest HD pig or has literally been PAID by microsoft to write the slanderous and obviously untrue garbage that made up the bulk of his review, it is clear that his subjective statements have all been made with no attention to what he was talking about. The man was out to prove a point and said whatever he had to to keep up the premise that the Wii is underpowered blah blah blah.
Gaming journalism is going down a gutter and the fact that you let this slip by and even PAID for it is EXACTLY the reason why. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, but at least base that opinion on FACT.
Don't worry: I'm not alone in my condemnation of your utterly transparent motives and I'm sure this isn't the last such letter you will be receiving. But it is the last time I will bother paying ANY attention to ANYTHING that comes from your site.
@WiiLikeSportz
This just may be taking it a bit to far.
But I agree, this is a magazine people pay for. You can't base a review on half a game and still be expected to retain any credibility. Imagine if a movie reviewer left halfway through a film but still wrote a review.
I'd expect this thing from a blog, i'd expect (and am expecting) it from Yahtzee because I don't give two s*** about what they say. But as a professional game magazine, who actually has sway for many gamers out there, to publish a partial review passed off as a complete one, to go into detail on which aspects of the game you didn't even bother to try out is just sad. I feel sorry for them.
By the way, If you have someone who already has a hate for the Wii, don't let them review games for the system.
This just may be taking it a bit to far.
But I agree, this is a magazine people pay for. You can't base a review on half a game and still be expected to retain any credibility. Imagine if a movie reviewer left halfway through a film but still wrote a review.
I'd expect this thing from a blog, i'd expect (and am expecting) it from Yahtzee because I don't give two s*** about what they say. But as a professional game magazine, who actually has sway for many gamers out there, to publish a partial review passed off as a complete one, to go into detail on which aspects of the game you didn't even bother to try out is just sad. I feel sorry for them.
By the way, If you have someone who already has a hate for the Wii, don't let them review games for the system.
@nGen
I'm sorry: how is it taking it too far?
I am making a big deal of him saying crap like it looks like a 64 game, the controls are horrible but good in the same review, and the story doesn't make sense even though he skipped the cutscenes.
If we just accept crap like that then it will get worse. If you don't think things like that is worth taking a stand over, that's your right. Many disagree. I don't think I'm overreacting. He is getting paid to lie and make up crap.
I'm sorry: how is it taking it too far?
I am making a big deal of him saying crap like it looks like a 64 game, the controls are horrible but good in the same review, and the story doesn't make sense even though he skipped the cutscenes.
If we just accept crap like that then it will get worse. If you don't think things like that is worth taking a stand over, that's your right. Many disagree. I don't think I'm overreacting. He is getting paid to lie and make up crap.
lol no problem. I wouldn't think you were out of line if you still thought I was overreacting.
After reading some of the crazy comments of angry people about the PSP port of Chinatown Wars, I would have to go pretty far to overreact.
After reading some of the crazy comments of angry people about the PSP port of Chinatown Wars, I would have to go pretty far to overreact.
@WiiLikeSportz
I know you haven't been at GoNintendo for too long, so let me tell you what happened A few months back there was a video posted by a news station, called Kmiz if I remember correctly, and it said that Animal Crossing: City Folk, a game that many adults love, is a game used by adult men to talk to little girls, and stated so many false facts about the game and it's on-line features. The readers here got so mad that about 20, maybe more, sent e-mails to the news station. A few days later they released a statement saying they apologize and that they would be more careful when putting together reports like this.
So the point is that getting in touch with the editors really does help. I just didn't want you to think your efforts are wasted, I sent an email to numerous GamePro editors just a few minutes ago as well. It is definitely not taking it too far, something should at least be said.
I know you haven't been at GoNintendo for too long, so let me tell you what happened A few months back there was a video posted by a news station, called Kmiz if I remember correctly, and it said that Animal Crossing: City Folk, a game that many adults love, is a game used by adult men to talk to little girls, and stated so many false facts about the game and it's on-line features. The readers here got so mad that about 20, maybe more, sent e-mails to the news station. A few days later they released a statement saying they apologize and that they would be more careful when putting together reports like this.
So the point is that getting in touch with the editors really does help. I just didn't want you to think your efforts are wasted, I sent an email to numerous GamePro editors just a few minutes ago as well. It is definitely not taking it too far, something should at least be said.
Unfortunately, these are the types of reviews you will be seeing from reviewers that are 360/PS3 fans and biased against anything Nintendo. Just add gamepro and/or the reviewer to the list of unprofessional, non-journalists / sites. The heads of gamepro need to reevaluate who reviews what games.
If you've been around awhile and read various reviews from various sites over the years you can see the trends and know a good non-biased review when you read it, you'll know if they actually played the game more than an hour and played all content and most importantly, you know what sites to stay away from in the future if you want a legitimate review on a Nintendo game without typical bias.
If you've been around awhile and read various reviews from various sites over the years you can see the trends and know a good non-biased review when you read it, you'll know if they actually played the game more than an hour and played all content and most importantly, you know what sites to stay away from in the future if you want a legitimate review on a Nintendo game without typical bias.
The mag gave the same score to Medal of Honor Heroes 2. If anyone can find the review of that game I'd love to read it.
LOL.
I eagerly await the next chapter of this saga. GamePro, you've got some 'splainin' to do!
I eagerly await the next chapter of this saga. GamePro, you've got some 'splainin' to do!
Hehehe, you people sure are a furious bunch, but you better don't tire yourself with this one, I have the feeling that this is not going to be the only review with this veredict.
@yomerodes
If other reviews say that it has awful controls but good controls, then they deserve to be madded at. It doesn't exactly take very long to write an angry e-mail... if you can type.
If other reviews say that it has awful controls but good controls, then they deserve to be madded at. It doesn't exactly take very long to write an angry e-mail... if you can type.
@yomerodes
I have the same feeling also, but the guy clearly stated in the beginning of the review that he didn't play the on-line component of the game, thats just wrong.
I have the same feeling also, but the guy clearly stated in the beginning of the review that he didn't play the on-line component of the game, thats just wrong.
i just sent Them all an email.
People like that should not be allowed to review any game....
People like that should not be allowed to review any game....
@yomerodes
Look, almost EVERY REVIEW of the game has so far been that 'It's mediocre', none of us are expecting any better, and most of us are okay with that because we care only about having a solid FPS, not how groundbreaking it is.
No one is upset about it bashing the game, it's because the review is an absolute joke. He says the controls are horrible and then praises them in great detail, IN THE EXACT SAME REVIEW, and then goes back to them being horrible as a flaw against te game.
This review is a giant pile of stupidity, even the worst websites do better than this.
Look, almost EVERY REVIEW of the game has so far been that 'It's mediocre', none of us are expecting any better, and most of us are okay with that because we care only about having a solid FPS, not how groundbreaking it is.
No one is upset about it bashing the game, it's because the review is an absolute joke. He says the controls are horrible and then praises them in great detail, IN THE EXACT SAME REVIEW, and then goes back to them being horrible as a flaw against te game.
This review is a giant pile of stupidity, even the worst websites do better than this.
I don't think that trying the on-line mode would've change his view of the game, since his gripe is with the control scheme and the story.. He even stated that the game can be fun, but I think it's inaccurate to give insight about something when you haven't fully experienced it or tried it.
Since ther is an enormous difference bewteen the reviewer and I (he already played the game), at least I don't consider myself with the authority to argue the review.
But judging by all sides of the discussion, I am sure this kind of oppinions will be in more press reviews and even in user reviews, since every person is a world by itself, and is simply logic that at least some of the hundreds of Hardcore Conduit supporters will end disliking the controls, since that is reality, you can't appeal to everyone.
But judging by all sides of the discussion, I am sure this kind of oppinions will be in more press reviews and even in user reviews, since every person is a world by itself, and is simply logic that at least some of the hundreds of Hardcore Conduit supporters will end disliking the controls, since that is reality, you can't appeal to everyone.
What an utter FAILURE of a review.
Skipping cut-scenes, and then ragging on the story? Huge contradiction people.
He mentions the ability to alter controls but says he was fine with the default setup. He then proceeds to hate the controls (and yes, the motions can also be turned off). He clearly can't play the game as he didn't realise that the grenades fly to the reticule, not at random. In reality it is also quite hard to aim when you are bashing someone in the face with said gun.
Putting down the graphics of the game when they are among the best and are THE most technologically advanced on the system (beating out tons of HD games in the sheer number of effects used). He must be mad comparing it to an N64 game.
Plus the idea that Goldeneye is a thing of the past? That game is far deeper, more varied and more realistic than the majority of FPS games today. It demands respect.
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I'm not sure there is all that much need to assault them with e-mails, the entire comment section of the review is laughing at him.
Skipping cut-scenes, and then ragging on the story? Huge contradiction people.
He mentions the ability to alter controls but says he was fine with the default setup. He then proceeds to hate the controls (and yes, the motions can also be turned off). He clearly can't play the game as he didn't realise that the grenades fly to the reticule, not at random. In reality it is also quite hard to aim when you are bashing someone in the face with said gun.
Putting down the graphics of the game when they are among the best and are THE most technologically advanced on the system (beating out tons of HD games in the sheer number of effects used). He must be mad comparing it to an N64 game.
Plus the idea that Goldeneye is a thing of the past? That game is far deeper, more varied and more realistic than the majority of FPS games today. It demands respect.
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I'm not sure there is all that much need to assault them with e-mails, the entire comment section of the review is laughing at him.
@yomerodes
"and is simply logic that at least some of the hundreds of Hardcore Conduit supporters will end disliking the controls, since that is reality, you can't appeal to everyone."
You're not listening, you're just assuming we dislike the review for daring to say the controls are bad or something.
Again, he says they're horrible, then says they're amazing, then says they're horrible as a huge negative again.
And this is irrelevant, you CAN please everyone on controls! BECAUSE YOU CAN REMAP AND ADJUST ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM! The controls can become whatever you want them to be, down to the slightest adjustment of the bounding box or how high you can look up.
Unless you just don't like the button layout on the Wii or something, and in which case you wouldn't have cared about the game in the first place and then this would just be complaining for the sake of it.
And you know what? Yes, we have enough knowledge to call him an idiot. Just because he's a reviewer who has played the game while we haven't doesn't mean we don't know he contradicts facts.
If a review came out for New Super Mario Bros Wii that complained about a lack of multiplayer and that there's no Koopa Kids, would you then say "Oh well he's played it, I haven't, guess I can't disagree"?
"and is simply logic that at least some of the hundreds of Hardcore Conduit supporters will end disliking the controls, since that is reality, you can't appeal to everyone."
You're not listening, you're just assuming we dislike the review for daring to say the controls are bad or something.
Again, he says they're horrible, then says they're amazing, then says they're horrible as a huge negative again.
And this is irrelevant, you CAN please everyone on controls! BECAUSE YOU CAN REMAP AND ADJUST ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM! The controls can become whatever you want them to be, down to the slightest adjustment of the bounding box or how high you can look up.
Unless you just don't like the button layout on the Wii or something, and in which case you wouldn't have cared about the game in the first place and then this would just be complaining for the sake of it.
And you know what? Yes, we have enough knowledge to call him an idiot. Just because he's a reviewer who has played the game while we haven't doesn't mean we don't know he contradicts facts.
If a review came out for New Super Mario Bros Wii that complained about a lack of multiplayer and that there's no Koopa Kids, would you then say "Oh well he's played it, I haven't, guess I can't disagree"?
This is a shocking review.
"unimpressive graphics "
right...
bad controls.........
REdo the review.
"unimpressive graphics "
right...
bad controls.........
REdo the review.
@Dr_Peace
Technology does not good graphics make. It is not the # of effects that makes graphics good, it is a cohesive visual style that is interesting to look at and uses shaders and whatnot WISELY.
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And for that matter customizable controls does not good controls make. Would a Mario game have better controls if you could move his jump to a button other than A? If you could map it to waggle? If the controls in-game don't let you accomplish something by design you should be able to do, or have some other kind of hang-up, what does it matter that you can tinker with their parameters?
Not saying the review posted by GamePro is right, but I get tired of the 'customizable = perfect' argument. Heck, the fact you can customize the HUD is a step down in my books and shows that HVS had no clear vision for how the game should look; a stunning contrast to a game like MP where the HUD IS your visor, or Mirror's Edge where there isn't one because you ARE Faith.
Technology does not good graphics make. It is not the # of effects that makes graphics good, it is a cohesive visual style that is interesting to look at and uses shaders and whatnot WISELY.
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And for that matter customizable controls does not good controls make. Would a Mario game have better controls if you could move his jump to a button other than A? If you could map it to waggle? If the controls in-game don't let you accomplish something by design you should be able to do, or have some other kind of hang-up, what does it matter that you can tinker with their parameters?
Not saying the review posted by GamePro is right, but I get tired of the 'customizable = perfect' argument. Heck, the fact you can customize the HUD is a step down in my books and shows that HVS had no clear vision for how the game should look; a stunning contrast to a game like MP where the HUD IS your visor, or Mirror's Edge where there isn't one because you ARE Faith.
@Burgers
Yes it actually does, take a look at Crysis and then say that. The detail on the enemy character models and realistic water for example can't be achieved without said effects in The
Conduit.
Artistry is just as important, and the style of The Conduit is powerful enough to have the internet nodding their heads in unison that the game look great.
Of course full customization makes the controls better, how is not being able to alter everything to suit your preference a bad thing? It means nobody with sense can have a point of contention with the controls. Your point is moot because the review did already praise the customization, yet still complained for pathetic reasons that are easily fixed. It is like complaining about how loud the music is and then not bothering to lower it in the volume settings.
The ability to alter the HUD just brings the point home that The Conduit is made to please as many as possible. The HUD makes sense because of the visor the protagonist wears (believeable), yet can be turned off and the game still offers visual feedback. A game like Mirror's Edge doesn't just forego using a HUD for purposes of style, it just doesn't have any function for one at all.
Yes it actually does, take a look at Crysis and then say that. The detail on the enemy character models and realistic water for example can't be achieved without said effects in The
Conduit.
Artistry is just as important, and the style of The Conduit is powerful enough to have the internet nodding their heads in unison that the game look great.
Of course full customization makes the controls better, how is not being able to alter everything to suit your preference a bad thing? It means nobody with sense can have a point of contention with the controls. Your point is moot because the review did already praise the customization, yet still complained for pathetic reasons that are easily fixed. It is like complaining about how loud the music is and then not bothering to lower it in the volume settings.
The ability to alter the HUD just brings the point home that The Conduit is made to please as many as possible. The HUD makes sense because of the visor the protagonist wears (believeable), yet can be turned off and the game still offers visual feedback. A game like Mirror's Edge doesn't just forego using a HUD for purposes of style, it just doesn't have any function for one at all.
Did anybody see the Conduit-plastered layout of GamePro's main page? I'll bet Tae K. Kim thinks he's pulling a Gerstman by slamming the game that's sponsoring the site.
That is absolutely pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. I've never seen so much bullsh¡t in one review.
Unimpressive graphics (these are some of the most impressive visuals for any Wii game period since it's 2006 LAUNCH especially FPS genre), bad controls (you can customise so specific down to your own personal taste-in real time).
I smell nasty [HD whores] afoot.
1. I don't listen to game reviews to TELL ME my opinion on a game ANYWAY([EVER!]). I have somthing called a BRAIN in my head to make up my own damn mind.
2. Gamepro and it's clear BULLSHIT here can kiss my ass.
3. I will buy this game, and MOST LIKELY I will enjoy it.
That's all I have.
One more thing: "TWO BIRDIES" (middle fingers)
I smell nasty [HD whores] afoot.
1. I don't listen to game reviews to TELL ME my opinion on a game ANYWAY([EVER!]). I have somthing called a BRAIN in my head to make up my own damn mind.
2. Gamepro and it's clear BULLSHIT here can kiss my ass.
3. I will buy this game, and MOST LIKELY I will enjoy it.
That's all I have.
One more thing: "TWO BIRDIES" (middle fingers)
They're bribed. No magazine in internet era will stain their name this bad without being paid handsomely. "its hes opinion blabla" NO! Its money that talks.
this is the problem with people getting early review copies. probably the copy that was played didn't offer said control tweekage.
gwxworld says..."Unimpressive graphics (these are some of the most impressive visuals for any Wii game period since it's 2006 LAUNCH "
yeah, for the wii, this game and it's graphics are nothing to write home about for everyone else though.
i'm sorry, you can't have an under powered system, with lackluster graphics (as a standard) and then get pissed when people say that they aren't as good looking as stuff on more powerful consoles. that's just stupid.
sure this game looks good, but only good for a wii game. we can't forget that fact. nintendo fans now thinks that with one game, that they are now playing with the big boys, and sadly that's not the case.
i wont knock the conduit until i play it, and i'm sure it's a very good game.
lets take nintendo out of the picture of a moment, would it be wrong to say that a ps2 simply doesn't look as good as a ps3 game? no, it wouldn't, it's a fact. it might play just as good, maybe even better on some levels, but it simply can't look as good.
gwxworld says..."Unimpressive graphics (these are some of the most impressive visuals for any Wii game period since it's 2006 LAUNCH "
yeah, for the wii, this game and it's graphics are nothing to write home about for everyone else though.
i'm sorry, you can't have an under powered system, with lackluster graphics (as a standard) and then get pissed when people say that they aren't as good looking as stuff on more powerful consoles. that's just stupid.
sure this game looks good, but only good for a wii game. we can't forget that fact. nintendo fans now thinks that with one game, that they are now playing with the big boys, and sadly that's not the case.
i wont knock the conduit until i play it, and i'm sure it's a very good game.
lets take nintendo out of the picture of a moment, would it be wrong to say that a ps2 simply doesn't look as good as a ps3 game? no, it wouldn't, it's a fact. it might play just as good, maybe even better on some levels, but it simply can't look as good.
look guys, here's a few things to take note of...
1) whoever was playing in the video, was clearly having issue with aiming...for whatever reason, they clearly were having issue with it.
2) the AI (in the video) was really stupid.
3) it doesn't LOOK as fun as a gears or a halo 3. now when i say that, i'm not here trying to toot M$ horn, it's just a fact. the game does NOT look as fun as the two games i listed.
i have yet to play this, so keep that in mind for number 3 and take it as you will.
1) whoever was playing in the video, was clearly having issue with aiming...for whatever reason, they clearly were having issue with it.
2) the AI (in the video) was really stupid.
3) it doesn't LOOK as fun as a gears or a halo 3. now when i say that, i'm not here trying to toot M$ horn, it's just a fact. the game does NOT look as fun as the two games i listed.
i have yet to play this, so keep that in mind for number 3 and take it as you will.
i don't see the issues stated about the motion controls to be wrong, by how it was described, it does sound hard to hit an enemy and then go back to aiming and shooting.
Again the video shows that whoever was playing it, was clearly having a hard time with the controls. thankfully the stupid AI seems pretty forgiving though.
Again the video shows that whoever was playing it, was clearly having a hard time with the controls. thankfully the stupid AI seems pretty forgiving though.
normally I wouldnt care about a review because I know there will always be people who thinks differently, rather if it is a good game or a bad game. but this is absolutely rediculous.
its like if someone hated McDonalds hamburgers because it didnt come with cheese.
its like if someone hated McDonalds hamburgers because it didnt come with cheese.
Not only did the reviewer completely pass by the game's biggest features - multiplayer and control editing - he also contradicts himself several times. If I can do ten times better than this then you know that something is wrong.
@bearded OTP
People like IGN compare Wii games to other Wii games, not Wii games to PS3 or 360 games. True, Wii graphics don't compete with 360, but you don't say they suck compared to them in a review of a graphically impressive WII game.
People like IGN compare Wii games to other Wii games, not Wii games to PS3 or 360 games. True, Wii graphics don't compete with 360, but you don't say they suck compared to them in a review of a graphically impressive WII game.
Conduit looks really nice. Nobody have ever said it is anything as beautifull as best looking XBox360 games, but Conduit still looks IMPRESSIVE. Its a very nice looking game, AND you know, a game really doesn't have to have teh best graphics in the world to be good looking game. Certainly Conduits graphics should not be a showstopper anymore for anyone, save for perhaps the most enthusiast graphic whores. And for even them, the Wii offers alternative, challenging game experience, without auto aim. I really really wonder why is everyone(in media) suddenly so negative towards Wii. Especially when Wiis games are finally achieving quality-levels this high!
I love my lastgen gamecontrollers. Gamepads are brilliant for brawlers and MegaMan, but modern shooters, 1st- or 3rd-person are compromised AT BEST with old fashioned gamepads. Therefore Wii is ironically the best FPS-platform. Sensation of shooting beats even otherwise as(or more)accurate and agile mouse+keyboard.
I love my lastgen gamecontrollers. Gamepads are brilliant for brawlers and MegaMan, but modern shooters, 1st- or 3rd-person are compromised AT BEST with old fashioned gamepads. Therefore Wii is ironically the best FPS-platform. Sensation of shooting beats even otherwise as(or more)accurate and agile mouse+keyboard.
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First paragraph he said, "I can't speak for the multiplayer because I didn't experience it first-hand (several other GamePro editors did, though, and their impressions are posted in our The Conduit multiplayer preview)"