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August 19, 2009 by The News Team Filed Under: Wii

- nothing removed from original game
- new content added
- DLC map packs are in question
- A.I. intelligence remains the same
- looking to secure the game at 30 FPS
- no MotionPlus or WiiSpeak support
- 10 players online
- online connection rate improved, friend code situation revamped, send friends invites to play
- 25-30 people working
- multiple control options and tweaks that supposedly outdo The Conduit
- squadmate mode returns
- CG/sound/music/voice returns from original

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August 19, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Sounds alright, but doesn't look too great. I wonder if they could improve the visuals a bit.
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August 19, 2009 at 12:33 pm
"- nothing removed from original game"

"-10 players online"

lol
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August 19, 2009 at 12:34 pm
"Nothing removed from the original".. Graphics maybe? ;) Hope it turns out good though
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August 19, 2009 at 12:35 pm
@Nez

The screens today were alpha
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August 19, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I probably wasn't going to get this, but I was at least semi interested in the game until that no WiiSpeak support tidbit. Sorry, but there's absolutely no excuse not to at this point, at least for an insanely popular first person shooter.
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August 19, 2009 at 12:35 pm
50 bucks? If it is, this is a joke.
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August 19, 2009 at 12:35 pm
somehow i doubt they haven't removed anything from the original PS3 and X360 Modern Warfare while adding more content to this version, unless i'm reading wrong.

Everything else sounds very good; although, what are these multiple control options and tweaks that supposedly outdo The Conduit?
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camelKaese
August 19, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Solid 30 FPS? I was assuming 60 with those screenshots, but oh well. Suppose I'll have to see it in motion before judging any further..
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August 19, 2009 at 12:37 pm
@DoppleBoppler

I agree. I'm not interested in the game but WHY not put in Wii Speak support?..
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August 19, 2009 at 12:38 pm
@dandancc

The price should be at most 40 in my opinion. It is pretty much a slightly (it's their claim) inferior port to a 2 year old game.

Now that you guys mention it, they did say they removed nothing from the original game but they in fact lessened the number of players as well as removed online chat.
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August 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm
- nothing removed from original game ok....
- new content added they have to justify this port
- DLC map packs are in question Oh, come on!!!!! Ya have guitar hero 5 with DLC and not this one???? This might add a couple more of sales if ya really want to sale this thing
- A.I. intelligence remains the same So, they rush on to you
- looking to secure the game at 30 FPS I can remember Metroid Prime 3 running at 60 all the time and that one had better graphics!!!!
- no MotionPlus or WiiSpeak support FFS!!!!!!! I can understand the M+, only Ubisoft has found a way to improve FPS using this, but WiiSpeak??? Goes to show how they lack effort here!!! Nice way to give the shaft again on WiiPlayers
- 10 players online Medal of Honor Heroes 2 did 32!!!!!!! And that one was kinda a launch title!!!!!
- online connection rate improved, friend code situation revamped, send friends invites to play i hope the FC revamped means something like what are ya doing with Guitar Hero 5
- 25-30 people working didnt they mean 2 people working on it. I had seen games with less people working and better quality on them
- multiple control options and tweaks that supposedly outdo The Conduit So, ya are gonna claim you are the ultimate control customization no one can achieve after they showed you how to do it huh?
- squadmate mode returns gives us zombie mode as well and i might grab it even though all my previous complains
- CG/sound/music/voice returns from original why change them?

So far, not looking good. Still expecting the video footage, so still giving devs the benefice of the doubt
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August 19, 2009 at 12:46 pm
@Nez
For a lesser port, it should be 30, but 40 is bearable (although 40 is the price of the original now, but with more online players, voice chat, and lots of DLC available).
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Fatal Frame Fanboy
August 19, 2009 at 12:49 pm
@Nez

@WiiFolder

@DoppleBoppler

I can't speak for the 360 and PS3 versions of the game, but when I play CoD4 on my PC, no one uses voice chat anyways. I've seen it used exactly two times out of the hundred or so matches I've played on it, and one of those was an accident. The other was just some guy screaming insults. So it's really not that big of a loss. That is, unless you were planning to go join clans or something...
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August 19, 2009 at 12:49 pm
@dandancc

Ya, I'd say it really depends on how good the game is. Then again, they may capitalize on the fact that there are Wii only owners who would want to play the game and therefore decide to charge more for it. Hopefully not but we'll see.

@Fatal Frame Fanboy

Personally I don't care about chat, but some do. On the PS3 version at least, there are quite a few people who use their little headsets. About 6 people each match will use it. But like you said, it's mostly just to insult others, so it isn't a big loss.
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cave
August 19, 2009 at 12:50 pm
definately hoping for the dlc maps, or at least the ability to download them after the game releases. that is, unless the "new content" is entirely new maps, that would be sweet.

also, 10 players is an improvement over WAW, which only allowed 8.
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August 19, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Watered-down port. Of course. Should I have expected more?

30 FPS? Boooo.
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Fatal Frame Fanboy
August 19, 2009 at 12:52 pm
@dandancc

"lots of DLC available"

LMAO. IW gave this game 3 new maps, then left it to die until the complaints about hackers on the PS3 (and 360 as well I think) rose to the point where they could only be ignored by a person both blind, deaf, and missing his arms. Treyarch may not be as top notch as IW, but at least they know how to support their games post-release. IW doesn't give a damn once the product's done.
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samfish
August 19, 2009 at 12:54 pm
@MegaPowa

The game comes out in November. That's THREE months.

If the game really is still in alpha, we have a big problem.
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BillyAtWiiloveit
August 19, 2009 at 12:58 pm
To be honest, with every new piece of info I hear about this game, I'm starting to want it less and less. Why didn't they just make a completely new CoD game, or at least port the upcoming sequel? This is gonna do really poorly in the stores, I bet my (imaginary) cat on it.
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August 19, 2009 at 1:04 pm
No Wii Speak? Must be a trade off to keep the frame rate at an exceptable 30fps. The Wii only has so much juice, if you pour an ounce hear and an ounce there soon you don't have enough left for what's important.

Skype works better then Wii Speak anyways.

COD:WAW Wii didn't have vehicles or mounted guns in online, nor did it have all the maps from the other versions. It's frame rate was not locked, often dipping below 20fps online and it had a maximum of 8 players.

COD:WAW Wii, Price $50, 1.3 million sold.

With the list of improvements in COD:MW Wii don't look for this one to be a budget game, you're out to lunch if you really think that.

I myself am not interested in actual modern warfare though, so I have no interest in this.
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August 19, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Grenade of Grenade: Grenade Grenade Wii
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August 19, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I took a look at the screens again on a better computer screen and yeah I'm just hoping those screens were a case of a crappy screen capture job. Screens make the game look like CoD3 on Wii, and that's not a good thing at this point in time. CoD3 could be forgiven because it was a launch title, but this is three years into the Wii's lifespan! I can understand the game not looking it's best because it wasn't given the two year dev cycle the CoD games are typically given, but I'm really hoping some well captured footage can actually make the game look better than those screen shots.

At least it's good to know nothing's been cut.
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August 19, 2009 at 1:06 pm
@samfish

just because they're alpha doesn't mean they're not old as hell
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August 19, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Well the fact that it seems they have tried to an extent (controls and Supposedly new content). This games is sounding a bit more interesting. I may consider it when its about $20-$30 since I will not support Activision for giving us a port of a 2 year old game rather than a new game.
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August 19, 2009 at 1:09 pm
- nothing removed from original game
- no ... WiiSpeak support


*lol*
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Scarpine
August 19, 2009 at 1:16 pm
- nothing removed from original game except for the visuals - our Wii development B team is having to pull out the PS2 dev kits as it's easier for them

- DLC map packs are in question but, requires effort on the part of our Wii development B team

- no MotionPlus or WiiSpeak support due to lack of effort on the part of our Wii development B team

- 10 players online - we could of done more but, our Wii development B team decided not to optimize the port to take advantage of the Wii hardware

- 25-30 people working on our B team

- CG/sound/music/voice returns from original but, highly compressed
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August 19, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I'm pretty sure Metroid Prime 3 runs at 60FPS and Call of Duty Modern Warfare 1 and 2 run at sub-HD resolution because the developers want it at 60FPS.

I won't even begin laughing at the rest of the details because that one is just the biggie.
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August 19, 2009 at 1:31 pm
@Fatal Frame Fanboy
I played one of the new maps, and it rocks. I played the PC version only, and not many problems there. I think the mp was mediocre just because of game quality, not due to lack of support or hackers.

@Nez
Considering how this looks much uglier than CoD on the Gamecube, I can already "foresee" that this will lack quality in any possible way. I mean, 20-30 people from a C team (A team does CoD7, B team does the other Treyarch games) porting one of the best selling games this gen in less than a year on a weaker hardware.
Proof that CoD on GC looked better: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... tcount=425
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EVIL-C
August 19, 2009 at 1:31 pm
*10 Player online, No wiispeak*

ROFL, tiny little HVS manages to outdo big bad, bottomless pockets Activision, that's beyond sad.

If I want online Wii FPS action, I know where to turn to. *hugs conduit* :)
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Zane
August 19, 2009 at 1:33 pm
So no wiispeak support because they don't wanna discriminate users? Hahahah funny one... You just lost a couple of hundreds of thousands of potential buyers, including me.
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Fatal Frame Fanboy
August 19, 2009 at 1:42 pm
@Shovelware

Haha. So true. I wish they'd just take frag grenades out entirely.

@dandancc

Yeah, the whole hacking problem thing was on the consoles mainly. However, the lack of support is inexcusable, espcially when compared to games like TF2.

As for the multiplayer, where to start? First of all, random spawn sucks. Second, frag grenades, and the very concept of cooking grenades, are broken. Third, sniper shots should be a one hit kill to the head, not to the body. Fourth, the MP5, M16, M4, and P90 were all broken to some extent or another (especially the MP5). Fifth, bunny hopping. Sixth... well, I'm just ranting now. >_> The one thing that kept me coming back was the leveling up and new weapons that came with it. Now I'm at Level 55, I have little to no incentive to come back and play, other than getting Golden versions of everything. I've already got gold-plated shotguns, and that's all I really cared about.
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cave
August 19, 2009 at 1:44 pm
they say friend code situation revamped...but to what extent? if you cant send friend requests to people you play online then it really doesnt matter.
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August 19, 2009 at 1:48 pm
- nothing removed from original game
- new content added
- DLC map packs are in question

Called it, called it .. called it.

And if everything else is true also, it's a pretty good deal overall.

WiiSpeak will not be missed since most people seem to decide not to use it..(at least on 360)
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hcig
August 19, 2009 at 1:50 pm
wiispeak is not a big deal

VC is just stupid anyways, because voice chat is only useful for communicating information and employing strategy.

that would require the people you play with to not be f*cktarded, which is impossible, and is why that 260 player fps ps3 game will be a big pile of fail
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Guess_Who
August 19, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Don't complain that the visuals are missing. You know what you were getting into when you bought a Wii. To expect the game to have similar graphics to the 360/PS3 version is ridiculous.
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August 19, 2009 at 1:53 pm
They say nothing is removed but surely the original had voice communication no?
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August 19, 2009 at 1:56 pm
"nothing removed from original game"

Oh no the quality sure was removed.
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August 19, 2009 at 2:13 pm
No WiiSpeak = no buy. Games like this require communication... and trash talk.
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August 19, 2009 at 2:15 pm
'looking to secure the game at 30 FPS'

Wait, this game has s*** graphics and they can't secure 30 FPS yet? WOW...
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August 19, 2009 at 2:16 pm
@Guess_Who

Only the HD obsessed idiots among Nintendo fans are expecting that [and there are certainly some on this site], but for the rest of us, a game having PS2 quality visuals on a superior console [and THREE years inTO its cycle] just screams of a shoddy port job.
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August 19, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Not going to lie. I have never played Modern Warfare and I don't have the money for a second console so I think I am going to get this game.
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August 19, 2009 at 2:28 pm
am i the only sane one here not caught up in being a fanboy graphics whore? Seriously guys, these arent THAT bad. You guys complain to complain. Get a life. The games sounds good and looks good except for the no wii speak support. Thats the only thing that pisses me off. Otherwise the screens look good and the game is soundling like its going to turn out good. Stop being a bunch of whiners. If we dont buy this game, we wont get MW2, so just be happy for once. Its a video game.
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August 19, 2009 at 2:28 pm
@GIAFGC

Uh duh? this is the wii version
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August 19, 2009 at 2:32 pm
@Stryks

Well, fps are always secured last, so that´s not a big deal, the big deal is that they only want 30 fps which is a pain in the butt :|
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August 19, 2009 at 2:57 pm
You buy an inferior system, you get inferior games. Why bother complaining, its your fault.
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August 19, 2009 at 3:01 pm
So is anyone actually surprised?

:lol:

@keyz

LOLOL. Oooooookay.
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August 19, 2009 at 3:12 pm
@Artistic_Anarchy

Surprised about what exactly?

Except for not supporting WiiSpeak, what on that list is there to be surpirse about?

I don't get it...
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August 19, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Artistic_Anarchy


OOOOOOOkay? I dont get why my opinion was so funny? Do i make fun of your weird Anime avatar you have? Or the site you run that looks like a 5 year old put it together? I could just see all the girls faces when they see that baby at a party. Get a life man and get off my back.

terryxlr

werent you just complaining about paying for online? MH3 has a pay system which will ultimately bring better online gaming to the wii, but in the same instance your talking about a system that charges for EVERY game being the better system. You make a lot of sense man.
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August 19, 2009 at 3:21 pm
They forgot one bullet point

-ugly ass n64 graphics
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August 19, 2009 at 3:26 pm
This is exactly why the wii is in the position its in: Dumb kids that whine all day about the wii's graphics.....on the internet. Hows come when i talk to 360 fans in person, they never have anything bad to say about the wii. But i get online and thats all i see. Tells you something.
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crono0929
August 19, 2009 at 3:27 pm
10 player online? n64 graphics? No Wii Speak.

it wont outdo the conduit that way....

and i doubt customization will be like or better than Conduit
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August 19, 2009 at 3:39 pm
@Guess_Who

No one is expecting 360/PS3 level graphics, but when you can't distinguish this from a GameCube game from 4-5 years ago then there is a problem. We don't care that it isn't as good looking as the HD consoles, we care that Gamecube games look better, and ran at higher frame rates.
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August 19, 2009 at 3:44 pm
tsk. tsk. tsk.

But I'll still buy it...if the graphics are worse than Cod:WaW(graphics matter when the words:shoddy port come along--2009 is the 3RD YEAR OF Wii for f**** sake!)
I may consider a swift trade-in(after beating single player and online leveling up ^^)
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August 19, 2009 at 3:44 pm
@NeroSuferoth

Surprised at these details? The number of people that you can play with online? You may not even get DLC maps because it hasn't been confirmed yet or a better way of putting it "in question" completely disregarding the SD card update, no WiiSpeak so it sucks that the people who have it won't even get to use it for this game...and the way it looks?

@keyz

I found it funny because you say at the end: "Buy this game so we can get Modern Warfare 2" as a beacon of hope. Yeah right. Get a grip. Nobody should be forced to buy this port in order to have the "hope" of getting the 2nd game. That is ridiculous.

By the way, I'd love to see what website I'm running because if I recall correctly, gasp! I don't run any!
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August 19, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Did Keyz just accidently diss SuperPhillip? That's the only thing I can think of.
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August 19, 2009 at 5:24 pm
@Scarpine

Highly compressed? What? The Wii doesn't use N64 carts you know, it allows dual layer dvd's up to around 8GB.

As for the using PS2 dev kits comment, look at World at War on Wii, now look at World at War on PS2 and shut du ef up.

@Nicktendo

N64 graphics!? Look at the best looking n64 game, your choice. Now stack that up against this, go ahead, completely ignore frame rate and resolution. You're an idiot aren't you.

I suspect a large portion of you noobs born directly into Xbox 360's need an education.
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August 19, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Lol.
I like how RMC left out the fact that the game we saw today was pre-beta.

And lol at people calling these n64 graphics.
you wish.
The textures are bad, but thats about it, sorry to let you down.


Cant believe you people are whining about this list. THIS LIST IS A GOOD THING.

People were b**** that they were going to leave things out of the core game, and now Activision says they arent and you still cry.

And you people say graphics arent everything, yet you are blinding yourselves to the rest of the game which is GOOD stuff so far.

Ugh, cant even put words together in light of how stupid a lot of you are coming off.

"OMGZ WTF THESE GRAPHICS SUCK"
"OMGZ WTF MOHH2 HAD 32 PLAYER ONLINE!"

Yet MoHH2 had WORSE graphics then CoD:MWii
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August 19, 2009 at 5:53 pm
@Artistic_Anarchy

Still in the HD versions almost every game mode is 6vs6 so 10 players online is not as horrid as you put it.

DLC as we both know is not yet confirmed so there's nothing to diss there.

WiiSpeak? well there are those who are fine with not having it and there are those who do.

And as for the graphics.. I'll give you that they could look better but will still pale in comparison with the HD ones.. besides I don't think anyone here knows on what stage the game was when they were taken, correct me if I'm wrong.

All I see here are people trying to find an excuse to complain about something and in the end they're just b**** about graphics.

I'm just hoping for the best here, but either way I already own the 360 version.
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August 19, 2009 at 5:57 pm
I'm gonna get this game. Honestly the screen don't look that bad. I have a great laptop and the screen really do look good. Don't really care for WS as I do use it in The Conduit.

But when they say nothing removed from the first game, that's hard to believe. CoD4 online has huge ass maps, so I see them shrinking them down....
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August 19, 2009 at 6:09 pm
@Game_Locks

That's what I was trying to say though in defense of the graphics.

From those screenshots, the maps look HUGE.
So if they really are that big, it makes sense as to why the graphics were dumbed down.
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August 19, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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NeroSuferoth

Thank you for being level headed. I've been dealing with idiots all day. Im pumped for this game. NOTHING is left out from the 360/ps3 versions(content wise) and there is new content. I am totally satsified. And anybody who thinks that they will release this and not 2 (granted that it sells like WaW, which i think it will) is a retard. I am pissed about no wii speak though and hope they include DLC for the final product.
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August 19, 2009 at 6:21 pm
How many players did the original have for online?
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Zeroshadow7
August 19, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Is it just me or am I the only one interested in knowing if this has splitscreen? so far, from the details I have heard, the game doesn't sound bad, well graphics do need to be improved but I heard everything is post alpha so, we will see how things end up, hopefully for the better
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August 19, 2009 at 6:50 pm
@Zeroshadow7

yeah I dont think it will, though that would make me buy it on day 1 for sure.
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bryan00798
August 19, 2009 at 7:11 pm
lol@all of the idiots complaining about this.We originally weren't going to get anything as far as COD goes this year, So a port is better than nothing. anyways, it says that the controls outdo the conduit, so I'm not complaining. and it says new content has been added, and if were lucky, could be some of the content from MW2.
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Zeroshadow7
August 19, 2009 at 7:16 pm
@ArakniD

Yeah same thing here, a day 1 buy
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August 19, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Wow I can't believe people are thinking of buying this game:

- 2 year old port while PS360 get the sequel
- 10 multiplayer online in comparison with Conduit's 12
- horrible graphics
- no wii speak support, like some people said there's no excuse to not add this at this time.

Conduit was made for the wii fans while this just seems like a last minute cash in
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August 19, 2009 at 8:43 pm
All I see here is a bunch of b*tching and whining about news that isn't that bad. Sure there will be 2 less players per most modes and 6 overall when playing online and the game doesn't look too hot right now, but most the details were great.

Oh well. Wii owners are never pleased with anything.
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August 19, 2009 at 9:02 pm
@DonnyDarko420

Word to that.
What happened to the days when ppl just liked to have fun?
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August 19, 2009 at 9:03 pm
i wonder how it could be better than the conduit without wiispeak support and 10 instead of 12 online players.
Meh who am i kidding it's not like that there is a ton of online fps to choose from .... and skype is always here
but really those pictures are awful , way worse than anything conduit related
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August 19, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I don't give a flying...well, you know...about Wiispeak. When I'm shooting people in the face online, I don't want to talk to them. The only time I want to talk to the guy I'm shooting in the face is if I'm playing split-screen.

I'm getting this. I loved Waw (wii) so this should be fun as well.
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August 19, 2009 at 9:47 pm
10 player online automatically removes one of the most fun modes, Ground War(32 player Team deathmatch and Domination).
Its sad to see those modes go, but if it is priced right I'm sold.

Looking pretty fugly so far though.
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August 19, 2009 at 10:17 pm
So..I know it is too quick to say this but, after reading all these details and seeing the screenshots, is The Conduit the best Wii FPS so far?
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August 19, 2009 at 10:40 pm
@Stryks

@aLex387

The Conduit's online is very laggy, at least for me. WaW is far better, and I HOPE that this will be at the same level as that.
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August 19, 2009 at 10:50 pm
@Totodile

Yeah I dont lag that much, but I have been quarter-circling alot.
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August 20, 2009 at 6:42 am
@Artistic_Anarchy

There are a couple of sites dedicated to anime run by someone saying they are 'Artistic_Anarchy' and he probably assumed it was you... they say 'My mom let me make this website!'

LOL I guess it just seems like something you -would- make but since you got your name from an anime other anime fans (the two that run the sites are little girls) have also just got their name from it.
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August 20, 2009 at 9:08 am
WiiLikeSportz

Dont you remember? RMC posted one of his reviews and the link took you to his blog/site. I forget what game it was but i remember seeing his blog/site and it was horrible. LOL
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August 20, 2009 at 9:24 am
@keyz

Hmm... I dont' remember that and he says he doesn't have one.... I'm not sure what to believe! Maybe it was really bad like you say and he took it down and acts like it never happened? lol

I don't know... he's not so bad when he's being nice... He has strong opinions his flaw is he isn't always as tolerant of others with equally strong but different opinions. Or maybe -my- problem is it hurts my feelings because I'm a whiney baby! lol ;)
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August 20, 2009 at 1:12 pm
@Nicktendo

You've obviously forgotten what N64 games looked like. >_>
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August 22, 2009 at 4:08 am
I still regard the graphics for Perfect Dark for N64 OK. I don't care about graphics, I care about gameplay and this one is likely to deliver, even if there are only 20 people working on it. Still sucks when they couldn't add WiiSpeak as The Conduit did. I've had good help from WiiSpeak when I played with a friend of mine in The Conduit warning him about an attack. Also, I was able to communicate that I would be taking care of the staircases in Streets-map while my teammate could snipe/protect the upper area. Worked great when I got myself in trouble, too.

So, yeah. A bummer CoD:MW doesn't implement WiiSpeak.
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August 23, 2009 at 4:22 am
@chris_the_wing

"N64 graphics!? Look at the best looking n64 game, your choice. Now stack that up against this, go ahead, completely ignore frame rate and resolution. You're an idiot aren't you."

>>AHEM!!!!Perfect Dark 64...Does this ring any bells to you,ass?


@all

I have nothing to say about this list because you've said them all...Any way,I found the following one funny...

"- A.I. intelligence remains the same"

>>HAHAHAHA! 'A.I. intelligence'... HAHAHAHA!
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