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I mean you can boil any conversation down to being "pointless" if you try hard enough. I get your point though, you either want him in and would argue for him or you want someone else in and you'll argue why THEY should be instead. But still, it's fun for people that may be fans or know of the character to discuss what he'd be capable of. Smash is a unique series in that when a character gets adapted to it they play totally differently than they would in any other fighter and lends itself well to platformer characters.