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Gearbox were talking to Nintendo about Switch support, but discussions stopped

16 January, 2017 by rawmeatcowboy | 59





Well that's certainly not something you want to hear. The more third parties, the better. Let's hope discussions resume and something comes of it. Thanks to FangztheWolf for the heads up!

Submitted by: fangzthewolf
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Rating: -2
Categories: Top Stories, Consoles
Tags: switch

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gerjet
Mon Jan 16 17 02:32pm
Rating: 16

Nintendo probably remembered what gearbox did with SEGA's money.

gerjet
Mon Jan 16 17 02:32pm
Rating: 16

Nintendo probably remembered what gearbox did with SEGA's money.

nik
Mon Jan 16 17 02:51pm
Rating: 1 (Updated 1 time)

Ha! I know right. My knee jeek reaction was to add a few things to his tweet, "We were talking to Nintendo... about getting a handout, but that stopped (because Nintendo don't do handouts)."

ridleysaria
Mon Jan 16 17 03:11pm
Rating: 4

I remember what Nintendo did with my money. Gave me a Wii U and a piss poor library of games.

aiddon
Mon Jan 16 17 03:27pm

Yeah, odd how people conveniently gloss over that fact.

jd
Mon Jan 16 17 06:09pm

What Ridley says is an OPINION not a fact...

nurio
Mon Jan 16 17 07:01pm

He was talking about what Gerjet said, though, since that's what his comment was in reply to. And that is definitely a fact

jd
Mon Jan 16 17 10:38pm

Oh really? I thought that response was aimed at Ridley's routine griping. Sorry about that. And yeah, I do recall what Gearbox did to Sega that makes working with them... undesirable.

nurio
Tue Jan 17 17 01:54am

Yeah, the way comments stack up and nest on GoNintendo can be confusing. How I handle it is to put my cursor right next to the dividing line for the comment and then scroll up. If my cursor scrapes by another dividing line, it means the reply wasn't in reply to that comment. When my cursor hits a particular comment, it means it was in reply to that particular comment.

Wow, that's a very convoluted way to explain it. I blame the fact English isn't my native language. But it's actually a very simple, easy and quick trick to find out to which comment the reply belongs, as long as my explanation is understandable enough

rudyc3
Mon Jan 16 17 06:39pm

lol. THIS! I haven't forgotten the promised Wii U version of Aliens Colonial Marines that never happened. Was so hyped for that game, until it became apparent that the game, even the actually released versions of it, was never going to be any good. And then in the end the Wii U version didn't even come out, so there's that.

reynard
Tue Jan 17 17 02:43am
Rating: 1

In the end, Wii U got the best version of Colonial Marines afterall. Hiyoooo!

rudyc3
Tue Jan 17 17 07:29am

Yep, you're right actually XD!

berrix
Mon Jan 16 17 02:39pm

This is a major problem with a lot of public relations among other developers (especially higher end). Nintendo seems to do well with indies, but I swear the only major developer who keeps responses high among their support has been Sony.

tetrodox
Mon Jan 16 17 02:41pm
Rating: 1

"My purchase is contigent on it having Borderlands 3"
Now thats a strange priority.

The more 3rd party support the better, but time to face the future, Nintendo is gonna have the same problems hitting western 3rd party, barring the indie scene, support on Switch as it had on Wii U and earlier consoles.

Now my hope is that eastern support and support from companies that were consistent with 3DS releases grows on the Switch. And that Nintendo buckles down and throws their full weight of development support on Switch instead of doing the same old thing trying to support 2 consoles.

hawk
Mon Jan 16 17 03:11pm

Sadly, you're probably right. Most Nintendo consoles start out with this level of support from third parties. I've always felt like even just Nintendo's output can make me happy I bought their console, and I stand by that. And in this case I only have to buy one console instead of two to get Nintendo's best offerings.

mr peanut butter
Mon Jan 16 17 02:41pm

Come on Nintendo, you need to get as many big name publishers and developers on board. Gearbox does great games that I would love to buy on Switch!!

shadowbuster
Mon Jan 16 17 02:45pm
Rating: 2 (Updated 1 time)

Gearbox is one of the few third parties that I just want gone from the industry. Every game they've made except borderlands are pure garbodor. And even borderlands was possible thanks to Sega's money.

tetrodox
Mon Jan 16 17 03:21pm
Rating: 1

Very much agree with you but Id put it in nicer words lol

someguy
Mon Jan 16 17 02:52pm
Rating: 1

I'd like Borderlands on Switch. Can't say I care about anything else they make.

ridleysaria
Mon Jan 16 17 02:55pm

Nintendo isn't taking online seriously so I don't think games like Borderlands or Battleborn would be good fit.

tetrodox
Mon Jan 16 17 03:24pm

A good chunk of the games they announced have essential online multiplayer components, including their newest IP ARMS.

ridleysaria
Mon Jan 16 17 03:31pm

No, it's a joke that requires a cell phone. Not taking it seriously at all.

xcwarrior
Mon Jan 16 17 02:56pm

System isn't even out yet and we already have 3rd parties backing away from Switch.

There's a lot of reasons I'm waiting at least a year before picking up a Switch... unless its already in the clearance end cap at Target for this holiday...

You may not like Borderlands, but it sells millions and needs to be on Switch. As does every other big release.

einar1025
Mon Jan 16 17 03:07pm
Rating: 1

Lol what? Did you even read post? Borderlands isn't a huge franchise anymore either. Not to mention Gearbox is seriously hurting after their BattleBorn flop.

Besides after what they did to Sega I wouldn't trust them either.

xcwarrior
Mon Jan 16 17 05:55pm

Had to see if Borderlands really dropped off. Sales I could find around the internet.

Borderlands 4.5 million (wikipedia)
Borderlands 2 12+ million (IGN)
Borderland Prequel 1.6 (VG chartz - I saw this also caused closure of a studio, so yeah bomb as prequels should)

So the prequel bombed, but I'd still say it's a big franchise until a mainline game bombs.

As for Gearbox screwing Sega... it's about time someone screwed Sega over like they have Sonic fans for the last 10+ years.

nurio
Mon Jan 16 17 06:06pm

As for Gearbox screwing Sega... it's about time someone screwed Sega over like they have Sonic fans for the last 10+ years.
Uhm, no. Making crappy games does not mean they deserve to get finances stolen by another studio. I say stolen, because they used Sega's finances for their own projects

xcwarrior
Mon Jan 16 17 10:06pm

Stealing by conning your consumer into buying a crappy product is still stealing.

I'm sorry but Sega does not deserve defense. They still had to have tested Alien Colonial Marines and they went with it.

jd
Mon Jan 16 17 10:45pm

Stealing by conning your consumer into buying a crappy product is still stealing.

Conning consumers into buying crappy products? What are they doing, holding a gun to people's heads? No one ever forced anyone to buy anything, in the end it is the consumer who chose to surrender their cash...

Buying things without knowing exactly what you're getting is a gamble, and if that's what people chose to do, and the gamble doesn't pan out and they are left unsatisfied by their purchase, then it's kind of their fault...

xcwarrior
Tue Jan 17 17 12:00pm

Buying things without knowing exactly what you're getting is a gamble, and if that's what people chose to do, and the gamble doesn't pan out and they are left unsatisfied by their purchase, then it's kind of their fault...

Sega purchased Gearbox's skills to make a game. It didn't pan out well for them. It's the same thing.

nurio
Tue Jan 17 17 12:14pm

If all the money went to the promised product and the product ended up being crap, then it's all fair game. But no, GearBox used that money for other things. And that's the key difference here

xcwarrior
Wed Jan 18 17 12:42am

I didn't read that part when I was skimming the news about it (I didn't even remember when it happened).

But still, it's not a big deal. If it was a big deal, we probably wouldn't have elected Drumpf as president. Cause he hires people to do work and then doesn't pay them. Which is also stealing. But I don't want to go down a political mess.

Bottom line is I don't care what Gearbox did, you do. And it's OK for us to differ on this opinion.

nurio
Wed Jan 18 17 08:04am

But still, it's not a big deal. If it was a big deal, we probably wouldn't have elected Drumpf as president. Cause he hires people to do work and then doesn't pay them. Which is also stealing. But I don't want to go down a political mess.
I... I don't even know where this came from...

Bottom line is I don't care what Gearbox did, you do. And it's OK for us to differ on this opinion.
Like I said, I'm not here to defend Sega, and I also don't really care much what Gearbox did. I don't like either company. I just think it's silly to say "He deserved X because he did Y", and that alone is my point

nurio
Tue Jan 17 17 01:46am

Like JD said, how exactly are people conned? Especially in this day and age when reviews are aplenty online for everyone to read. It's far from in the same league as what GearBox did to Sega.

And honestly, I'm not really defending Sega particularly. I'm more against the notion of this kind of 'revenge'. The "He did X so he deserved Y" attitude.

legendofzeldafan955
Mon Jan 16 17 03:22pm
Rating: 3

Exactly my thoughts on the Switch.

I'm sorry, but Nintendo screwed me over with the Wii U by "promising" all this 3rd party support. All the "support" dried up after a year or two and it was left with crappy shovelware or pathetic efforts like Mass Effect 3 at full price when they could have given us the Trilogy.

I'm waiting a year for the Switch. While I will always want to play Nintendo's new games, I'm not jumping in and trusting them after the Wii U.

And your right, not everyone cares for certain 3rd party games on Nintendo consoles, but I do, and having strong 3rd party support (specially Western studios) only makes Nintendo look stronger.

They don't seem to understand that if they had a console with their games+solid AAA 3rd party support, they would run circles around PlayStation and Xbox.

vkint88
Mon Jan 16 17 03:56pm
Rating: 1

I wholeheartedly agree with your bolded comment.

vinlauria
Mon Jan 16 17 05:40pm
Rating: 1

But how is any of that Nintendo's fault? Third-parties spat all over the Wii U under nothing but Nintendo's doing. Is there something extra Nintendo should have done to get - say - the Mass Effect Trilogy instead of just an overexpensive ME3 port, and if so, why don't Sony or Microsoft have to do that? Why do the other consoles get a free pass but Nintendo has to somehow earn third-party support?

xcwarrior
Mon Jan 16 17 05:58pm

The part you bolded might be the smartest quote from a Nintendo fan I've seen in a long time.

Amen. I'll still support Nintendo through my 3DS and I'll pick up some WiiU games as they are clearanced out, but my goodness the Switch looks so overpriced and they don't even know who they are targeting with their marketing when you are leading with 12 Switch and Arms and saying the controller will count Ice Cube, then show off things like Splatoon and Zelda.

nurio
Mon Jan 16 17 06:09pm

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying it is wrong for Nintendo to offer two different experiences like 1-2 Switch and Zelda: BotW?

xcwarrior
Mon Jan 16 17 10:08pm

I'm saying for an event that core video gamers are going to watch, and not the casuals, they needed to have a clear definied message. I"m saying their message was all over the place and without focus.

They spent time describing out the joycon could be a glass for counting ice cubes. Like who the heck cares. Not the people waking up at 2 a.m. to watch this show, that's for sure. And because the joycon can become an ice cube tray, they cost $80 for a pair. Ridiculous.

nurio
Tue Jan 17 17 01:50am

They spent time describing out the joycon could be a glass for counting ice cubes. Like who the heck cares. Not the people waking up at 2 a.m. to watch this show, that's for sure.
I care. I think the HD Rumble sounds like an amazing feature. And no, I don't consider myself a casual. Heck, I got up at 4:30 AM to watch this and pulled through all the way until like 4 AM the next day just to keep up with the news

Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad that Nintendo tries to offer all kinds of experiences on their consoles. Games that have motion controls. Games that have traditional controls. Games that are experimental. Games that are tried and true. The only thing lacking in the library is the kind of experience only Western third party developers seem to offer. And that's what Nintendo needs to get on board. Skyrim is a good start, but a bit of an old game. We need the latest stuff on there.

You say the presentation lacked focus. Would you have preferred two separate events? One for the hardcore and one for the casual market?

xcwarrior
Tue Jan 17 17 12:02pm

The only thing lacking in the library is the kind of experience only Western third party developers seem to offer. And that's what Nintendo needs to get on board. Skyrim is a good start, but a bit of an old game. We need the latest stuff on there.

I totally agree. This is why I got a gaming PC. Between that and 3DS, for now, I can get 95% of the games I want to play.

Would you have preferred two separate events? One for the hardcore and one for the casual market?

Yes.

mr_ry
Mon Jan 16 17 03:04pm
Rating: 1

"Give us money, Nintendo!"

entity
Mon Jan 16 17 03:22pm

Is basically what I was reading too, but still they need all the games they can. Double edged sword.

mr_ry
Mon Jan 16 17 03:54pm

I like to see Nintendo push certain third party games harder. Skyrim is old yes but they need that game to sell to prove that major Western games can be successful on Nintendo. A successful Skyrim port is a bullet point that Nintendo could sure use to sell Switch to other third parties.

entity
Mon Jan 16 17 09:27pm

Old game= no sale

Nothing xsnchsnge that unless it is VC

t27duck
Mon Jan 16 17 03:27pm

I guess Nintendo doesn't want major 3rd parties on board?

They think they can get away with only Namco, Sega, and indies.

swarmster
Mon Jan 16 17 03:44pm

What a strange attitude for a CEO to take. 'Well, those talks stopped for some reason, I guess we'll just sell fewer games!'

If I were a Gearbox developer, I'd be a little concerned.

Mon Jan 16 17 07:41pm

Exactly, but that don't seem to care really [would they'd have ever brought it up, were they not asked about the Switch specifically here], so on the other hand, why should Nintendo? They can use that extra time to get more actual games from others to come out on their system.

chicken008
Mon Jan 16 17 03:54pm

Congrats on being out of touch Nintendo.

Mon Jan 16 17 04:13pm
Rating: 4

As I said in my other post, "if conversations with Nintendo stopped, it's probably because Gearbox wanted Nintendo to fund the game."

Why Nintendo would waste money on a game that Sony and MS will be getting for free?

That's the mentality of many third-party companies. When it comes to Nintendo, just releasing the game is not enough. They wanted Nintendo to freakin' pay for the game.

reynard
Tue Jan 17 17 02:48am

Nail on the freakin' head.

tetrodox
Mon Jan 16 17 04:24pm

Because getting renowned Gearbox games like Presequel and Battleborn is being in touch?
lol ok.

chicken008
Mon Jan 16 17 04:59pm

Yes, Nintendo needs support from big third party studios.
Just because you dislike 2 of their games doesn't mean Nintendo should avoid them.

tetrodox
Mon Jan 16 17 05:46pm

they're a failing studio, not the end all be all.
Nintendo should keep their eyes on the likes of EA and Activision, be healthy with Ubisoft, and continue moving forward with Eastern 3rd party studios.

codiepo
Mon Jan 16 17 04:09pm
(Updated 1 time)

im very sure that even if they are talking with Nintendo about Borderlands 3, the Switch will not get the game due to "techical limitations".

Mon Jan 16 17 04:09pm
Rating: 1 (Updated 1 time)

If conversations with Nintendo stopped, it's probably because Gearbox wanted Nintendo to fund the game.

There's no way Nintendo is gonna waste money on something Sony and MS will be getting for free.

Nintendo is not the poor Project Cars backers, who initally thought they wre paying for the development of the game on Wii U, when they were actually paying for the development of the game on all other system but the Wii U. =(

internet
Mon Jan 16 17 04:18pm

lol Mr Gearbox, you could not screw over another jpn dev ? well tough cookie .Now the reality is simple nintendo doesn't have the money to co-marketing their way exclusive dlc and all the other "creative" way of paying for. It would not be a problem if those things did not end up with the final consumer (us) to pay for all of those

vinlauria
Mon Jan 16 17 05:36pm

Here we go again. Bets on when EA decides to announce another "unprecedented partnership"?

Mon Jan 16 17 05:45pm

Nintendo continuing to work as well with AAA Western devs as Microsoft works with AAA Japanese devs. Same old, same old.

reynard
Tue Jan 17 17 02:45am
(Updated 1 time)

Everyone jumping on the doom bandwagon because a known swindler said something negative...

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