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Splatoon 2 - no voice chat with strangers, better integration of unlockable content in various modes

Coming from a GamesTM interview with director Yusuke Amano and producer Hisashi Nogami...

On voice chat

“The reason we included voice chat is because we wanted users who already know each other to enjoy the game more deeply using a communication tool that’s linked to the game.” - Amano

“Voice chat can only be used when playing with someone you know, such as in private matchmaking; voice chat with someone you don’t know in random matchmaking won’t happen.” - Nogami

- better integration of unlocks from the Hero, Battle and Salmon Run Modes into all multiplayer modes
- you can also use some of the unlocks from multiplayer mode in Hero Mode

Categories: Interviews, Consoles
Tags: eshop, switch
Games: Splatoon 2

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Why include great parental controls and go so far as to make an online video explaining them when they are just going to impose restrictions like this on everybody anyway. Why.

Nintendo frustrates me in ways no other company does. They have always and will continue to provide some of the absolute best games in the industry but will seemingly never let their hardware/software that facilitates them be up to par with whatever is expected as a minimum. The Switch goes a long way to buck that trend with great hardware (launch issues aside), easy to develop for and a great UI. And yet they still refuse to adhere to industry standards elsewhere when it makes sense to.

Not surprising but still disappointing. It's like Nintendo has never heard of a mute button...but then again this is the same company that thinks voice chat from your phone through an app is a good idea...

kuro
Sat May 27 17 11:40am
Rating: 2

Don't most people use Discord nowadays instead of built in voice chat anyways?

It doesn't matter what people use these days. The option should still be included. It's getting old with Nintendo treating their fanbase like they're all kids. "Oh no, ArmsMaster22 is saying horrible things. I guess I better keep talking to him instead of pressing the mute button or leaving."

With the amount of time I have spent on MMOs, you'd actually be surprised how often they don't exercise that feature. Anonymity can be a force of absolute toxicity at times and people just choose to "take it" and play the victim to blame the developers faaaar more than muting something that causes them grief. Nintendo is pretty much making sure they're not much more a target (which the Internet loves to do) for this blaming system. Does it suck? I suppose, but how often do you talk to strangers in comparison to people you became acquainted to in comparison to a complete stranger in your team?

But hey, I guess people just want to be told to go suck off something in various ways by strangers within Mario Kart.

nintendo protecting dem kids, boy. meanwhile sony and microsoft dont give a fuck.

More like protect me from having to hear any annoying kiddies throwing tantrums.

I mean I get it...with some of the toxicity in Overwatch chat, I'm sure Nintendo wants to avoid that at all costs. But we are in the age of social media now. Can't protect the kiddies from everything.

berrix
Sat May 27 17 11:50am
(Updated 1 time)

If you think Overwatch is bad, you should have seen the two paragraph essay someone wrote when I lost my first ever match in DotA 2.

We can't protect people from this cause the social media, sure. But there was a time where they couldn't defend their offspring from predators, but they still made an attempt to make what they controlled bear-free (for the most part).

kuro
Sat May 27 17 11:44am
Rating: 2

What I find funny is how in regards to Nintendo games people get mad there is not public chat, but in the other systems public chat is dying because of how toxic it can be. Skype and Discord are being used more now.

Makes me glad that you can add friends from the list of strangers with whom you've played online. So if you do really find you play well with someone, you can friend them and take it to the next level

I'm okay with that. In my experience, no one really uses voice chat in shooters these days anyway, and my only positive voice chat experiences have been with friends, who are generally the only people I want to talk to. I get why some might be bothered by this...but given my experiences with this feature, I struggle to empathize.

jayvir
Sat May 27 17 12:32pm
Rating: 1

These days on PC and PS4, I don't ever hear randoms in matchmaking unless they are trolling. Everyone just sticks to talking to friends. So basically, this changes nothing in Splatoon 2 considering you'll likely be playing with people on your friends list if you play a lot.

lylatroid
Sat May 27 17 01:30pm
Rating: 1

No voice chat is better! I don't want this to be COD all over again. Besides, we can add a person as a friend if he/she likes you.

Why do people want to talk to strangers anyway? Most people are a-holes, so why would you want to even attempt vocal interaction?

entity
Sat May 27 17 02:56pm
(Updated 1 time)

The thing is that they should have it optional. Some people like those toxic arracks on chat it seems. The Switch also has parental controls where parents could just turn it off in general.

I see a lot of people saying "I dont use VC anyway. " or "I only chat with friends anywayz", but some people don't. They chat with randoms. I would try that out and see how it goes and would turn it of if I don't like it. Simple as that.

On the other hand, I still have to build up a friend list on my Switch and see how that goes.

Some comunities are fine, like monster hunter, where everybody helps. Voice chat is OK on monster hunter... But in Mario Kart, or Splatoon, you'll be flooded with toxic attacks due to the competitive nature of the game... and only one match of those is enough to ruin your day or week sometimes. I totally support nintendo here.

entity
Sat May 27 17 05:27pm
Rating: 1

I agree personally, but still would be nice with that option for those who want it. Nintendo does not HAVE tobhold my hanf. I'm 36.

Also... it can truly be fun to gang up with three friends and go batshit online... With friend-chat.

That thought just hit me now.

I'd say this is less about protecting kids from toxic scum is it is simply to avoid encouraging the toxic scum in the first place. Nobody should have to mute some S.O.B. Better to simply not give them a platform.

Nobody here asking about how we're going to do voice chat at all? In handheld mode only through the jack on top? How about when you're playing on your TV then? With extension cords running across our floors? Or is the smartphone app going to be out by the time the game itself is?

For the record there are no Switch games with audio chat yet on the market (to my knowledge anyway). So it'll be interesting to see how they manage that AT ALL. Kinda get the feeling we'll get the announcement at E3 about the date of availability of the fabled smartphone app and how this is all going to work.

csp
Sun May 28 17 08:37am
(Updated 2 times)

'How about when you're playing on your TV then?"

ps3 supports bluetooth headests and the 360 has a wired headest bundled with every console. That was 10 years ago. Nintendo could have used BOTH options had they wanted to. The fact that you need A SMARTPHONE for voice chat is just...amazing!!! /irony

or you can just use the 360 headset. Really great audio, far FAR better than the WiiU and free for ALL users (and the xbox one voice chat is even better). No kidding I used a 360 for chatting with other smash bros players on the wiiu because...chat is MUTED in game by nintendo. FFS!

...and used the internet on the wiiu to check achievements. Snaps made this redundant though xaxa

Yeah I know that of course. It shouldn't be that hard for them to add bluetooth headset support down the line to be honest. The Switch is a glorified Android device without Android on it after all, since it's basically a Shield Tablet at core, and that thing had native support for such things, like most Android devices.

I can sort of understand that if the app lets you call your Switch friends even when you're away from the console, it's useful, but it shouldn't be forced onto players like this during actual gameplay. I don't want to have to drain the battery of my phone as I'm playing my switch in TV mode. Granted, I've been doing that for other games through Discord because it's a lot more convenient for Twitch streamers I play with to stream the audio from every player that way... but still...

Why include great parental controls and go so far as to make an online video explaining them when they are just going to impose restrictions like this on everybody anyway. Why.

Nintendo frustrates me in ways no other company does. They have always and will continue to provide some of the absolute best games in the industry but will seemingly never let their hardware/software that facilitates them be up to par with whatever is expected as a minimum. The Switch goes a long way to buck that trend with great hardware (launch issues aside), easy to develop for and a great UI. And yet they still refuse to adhere to industry standards elsewhere when it makes sense to.

If you talk to randoms there is a 30% of talking to a Trump supporter, and nobody wants that lol

Well, I mean, 30% of the people would want that, right?

I'd say higher. So many closeted supporters.
And I'd say this is grossly off-topic... But politics is just such an amusing game to spectate.

Heheh. I was just being facetious. I have no intention of actually engaging in a political debate here of all places

#squidlivesmatter .

I guess I should of said no one that matters would want that!

I think Nintendo needs to realize that more adults play games on the Switch and that they need to STOP with the EXTRA parental features. Let the parent set that up on the app and in the game. Why should I not be able to talk to people who are not on my friend list I play on my PS4 with people who are not on my friend list and we play a few games and end up becoming friends and adding each other on our friend's list! I just seems Nintendo wants to take some of the fun out!

That doesn't mean that every game needs to be like that though. I, myself, have made several good friends from all over the world over voice chat in Resident Evil Revelations on Wii U. Heck I've played that game in coop every monday for the past year with the same dude to the point where we're amongst the fastest duos on that game because we know each other so well and have assigned one another roles that we stick to.

So it's not like Nintendo doesn't want you to forbid you to do so in every game, but as far as they're concerned, for a game such as this that is mostly played by kids, they'd rather kids don''t fall against creeps, and as a parent I can totally stand by that. There are lots of adults on Switch for sure, but I still think the audience of Splatoon is younger on average.

In fact, while it bothers me that something like Minecraft Switch doesn't have built-in audio chat, I feel much safer letting my 9 year old daughter who's an hardcore Minecraft fan play the switch version on her own without fear of people neither of us know contacting her and spouting creepy stuff at her through a microphone.

noseofwario
Sun May 28 17 03:27am
Rating: 1 (Updated 1 time)

Voice chat for strategizing with team mates wouldn't work/do anything in Splatoon, so there's literally zero reason to add voice chat. Anyone who has ever played Splatoon knows this is true.

Without the usefulness of voice chat, only the toxic part of it remains, so they would be stupid to add it.

csp
Sun May 28 17 07:28am
Rating: 1

always love the "why do you need to talk to strangers?" argument.

makes me wonder if I am some kind of weirdo (that I do want to communicate with strangers and try to coordinate our efforts without shouting fixed text bubbles)

I am totally okay with this.

I personally don't want to hear randoms, and I really don't want to see news articles about an angry mother's uproar their her child got abuse shouted at them while playing a Nintendo game.

Either way you won't be able to talk to everyone in random matches, as most people will turn off the chat, and you'll be able to chat only with 1 or 2 people at best while playing. I turn off chat on every single game I play. It's not that bad if you see it that way for those that want to talk to strangers. I also don't see it making the difference for random online play.

on a side note, allowing chat on a game like this, would make matchmaking more difficult, meaning you would only be able to play with players among your region, thus, shrinking the overall possibilities of filling your team.

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