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Playtonic discusses how Yooka-Laylee's constructive criticism will make the Switch version even better

Coming from a Dtoid interview with Playtonic studio head, Gavin Price...

“We’ve always had a great connection with the community – they’re the reason we exist in the first place – and so we want to make sure we’re doing right by them with every decision we make as a studio, both now and going forward. Following Yooka-Laylee’s release there was a lot of very clear, constructive feedback from fans on how they felt we could improve the game, so it made total sense to us to get back to work and bring it all to life.

There’s a mountain-load of improvement we’ve added based directly on player feedback. This benefits not just existing players, but new ones who decide to purchase Yooka-Laylee in the on-going Summer sales, and of course future players on Nintendo Switch, who’ll hopefully appreciate these changes and additions, available for them on day one.

The team is really proud of what we’ve accomplished in such a short amount of time with a tiny (but experienced) team, especially considering we had to build a company at the same time. Not long ago we were sat in an office the size of a gents toilet, and now we’ve more than tripled in size and have a debut game (and our own IP) on the shelves.”

Categories: Interviews, Consoles
Tags: eshop, switch
Games: Yooka-Layee

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Giving in to vocal hate groups whining when the guy who was removed said himself that he was understanding of their decision is not the way to go. :P If JT isn't throwing a fit, neither should those who're enraged over petty matters

If your taking constructive criticism then do you think you could bring back a particular e-celebs voice?

Giving in to vocal hate groups whining when the guy who was removed said himself that he was understanding of their decision is not the way to go. :P If JT isn't throwing a fit, neither should those who're enraged over petty matters

berrix
Thu Jun 29 17 09:07pm
Rating: 1

Not defending the argument (cause I didn't care either way), couldn't this argument be applied to those who originally wanted JT out to begin with?

The people who wanted JT out in the first place were Playtonic themselves. They didn't want to be associated with what he said.

bpm
Thu Jun 29 17 10:08pm
Rating: 4

His removal started with an organized witch hunt at NeoGAF. GAFfers contacted Playtonic en masse demanding his removal, and they caved into their demands.

panurgejr
Thu Jun 29 17 10:16pm
Rating: 5

You say they caved because you disagree with the decision. I say they agreed that it was the right decision because I agree with it. See how that works?

There was no witch hunt on Neogaf against Jon btw. The hatred towards Playtonic primarily came from people who supporting Jon. Last I checked there was a ton of posts on Playtonic's fb page of that flavor (badmouthing playtonic even though they likely don't actually care). Fact is that few people even really knew he was doing a voice in the game until they took him out.

bpm
Thu Jun 29 17 11:39pm
Rating: 1

I recall there being a thread on NeoGAF that was organizing people to contact Playtonic demanding he be removed after his debate with that Destiny guy. For the life of me, I can't find it again.

You're right. There was a thread there, and a subsequent celebration after JonTron was removed. NeoGAF is not shy about tampering with the lives of people who don't agree with their politics.

I did some research and this seems like this "neogaf movement" was pretty exaggerated. This is the thread I'm referencing that I think you're talking about: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1337252. There was some hashtag there saying "JonTronIsOverParty" made by the OP, but when looking at the actual hashtag on twitter, I see that there are less than 50 tweets, some of which were for the hashtag and others against. NONE of them seem to be tweeted at Playtonic. Honestly this hashtag didn't go anywhere, and I doubt Playtonic reacted to this at all. They booted JonTron because they had their own reasons and didn't want to have him associated with their game any longer. He did like one piddly voice somewhere anyways.

Actually, I would probably wager the only way Playtonic got news of this debate in question was probably those who were opposing of JT in the first place.

It's like Nintendo addressing something cause a teacher got fired from an American University; Two drastically different worlds that would never cross unless somebody (or a group) brought it to their attention. Hell, I wasn't aware of it either till the removal. Clearly it's either I am dumb, selfish and blind, or that the podcast wasn't genuinely that well known.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know much of JT prior to that, regardless.

bpm
Thu Jun 29 17 10:06pm
Rating: 2

Hate groups? Really? So everyone who disagrees with you is part of some spooky, scary boogeyman "hate group"? It isn't possible for someone to disagree with his removal aside from being part of some "hate group"?

thedreaminghawk
Thu Jun 29 17 10:42pm
Rating: 3 (Updated 1 time)

Quite frankly, there's a difference between being disappointed that a cameo of someone you admired/liked a lot was removed, politely expressing maybe once that you weren't a fan of the change, and going full on rage towards the game devs, both via personal and company accounts while under the hashtag of a "movement" known for being a hategroup. Seriously, some of this rage would be understandable if it was for the actual problem (Treatment of Nintendo owners) but even then that wouldn't excuse the obnoxious spamming and threats that some people sent, all because of a guy who said himself that he understood their decision. No need for some people to be Vigilantes towards the devs because they didn't like a minor audio edit that could be modded back in easily in the PC version. I even knew several people who were a bit bummed that he got cut since we enjoyed his content, but once he said he was fine with it those people accepted it and moved on, like everyone else should have.

There's a pretty good reason Team17 went on a banning spree on their steam forums, and it's not because they hated feedback. It was because a ton of people were being pricks to them, plain and simple. Seriously, I haven't seen so many people get worked up over such a non-issue since... Well, ever TBH. Everyone on the team got the drift, and JT himself didn't ask his followers/fans to act so crazy, so the fact that people got so upset over an audio edit yet NOT the actual problems with the Switch version and poor communication just baffles me to what priorities people have.

bpm
Fri Jun 30 17 12:42am
Rating: 2

Good heavens, this is a loaded comment. Where to begin? I guess the top would be a good start.

Quite frankly, there's a difference between being disappointed that a cameo of someone you admired/liked a lot was removed, politely expressing maybe once that you weren't a fan of the change, and going full on rage towards the game devs

You're right, there is a difference between politely expressing yourself and raging. And that goes both ways. There were people raging and demanding he be removed. There were people raging and demanding he be added back after he was removed.
I had emailed Playtonic about my disagreement with Jon's removal, and I was not all rude or vulgar in my message. Even so, to this day, it goes without response. I was a backer of the Kickstarter, and still my input is ignored. I haven't even asked for a refund, either (still looking forward to the game's Switch release).

...while under the hashtag of a "movement" known for being a hategroup.

#GamerGate isn't a hate group. Unless you consider being against dishonestly and collusion in the media, and being against censorship to be a "hate group". Hell, even the FBI investigated #GamerGate and found nothing. You should really look into what #GamerGate is about. If you honestly believe it's about keeping women out of gaming or something like that, then you really know nothing.

...the actual problem (Treatment of Nintendo owners)

What a fanboyish thing to say. How has Playtonic treated Nintendo fans badly, as you imply? Because of the canceled Wii U version? Because of the delayed Switch version? If that's what you're implying, then that's a pretty silly thing to say. The Wii U version was canceled due to difficulties in getting the game functional on Wii U (which we hear time and again), plus the fact that the game would be released AFTER the Switch came out. Even before the Switch came out, the Wii U was already a dying/dead platform. Let's not kid ourselves: targeting a Wii U release at any point after the reveal of the Switch would be a fruitless effort.
As for the Switch version being delayed... it's pretty obvious development started on this port LONG after the other versions were nearing completion. Plus, it benefits from most of the bugs/complaints about the other versions being ironed out for the Switch release. If anything, I'd say they're doing Nintendo fans a favor by not releasing the game in its current state on Switch.

...all because of a guy who said himself that he understood their decision.

I appreciate how Jon responded to the situation (even still encouraging them to have a successful launch), but that doesn't mean I have to agree with Playtonic's decision. I'm allowed to think for myself, am I not?

...like everyone else should have.

I've noticed you often take a stance of moral authority and seem to believe everyone should follow in line with the groupthink... 🤔

There's a pretty good reason Team17 went on a banning spree on their steam forums, and it's not because they hated feedback. It was because a ton of people were being pricks to them, plain and simple.

They completely silenced any dissent to Jon's removal and requests for refunds, regardless of how people presented themselves. They simply allowed for zero discussion on the matter.

Seriously, I haven't seen so many people get worked up over such a non-issue since... Well, ever TBH.

It may be a minor thing, but who are you to tell what people should and should not care about?

...yet NOT the actual problems with the Switch version and poor communication just baffles me to what priorities people have.

There are no problems with the Switch version. A delay in the release isn't a problem, especially since it means they're fixing a lot of issues first (have you not seen the patch log for the huge update to the game?) and Playtonic has communicated well on most matters.

berrix
Fri Jun 30 17 01:52am
Rating: 1

After being called a variety of several colorful names for not being against JT when it first started, I noticed a couple things you brought up I can relate to.

Namely cause I didn't feel the need to side with either of the groupthink ideologies that were spurred from it. Namely cause I never really cared of JT's content, nor knew about his voice even being in the game til it was removed. However, I used this event to make a point that everything about a point-of-view can change when collected with a bit of scrutiny of the entire events that were laid out.

I literally took a week of proper investigating of the whole thing to understand a lot of what happened, and really places a bad taste in my mouth of how eager social media is when they wish to pervert it to their means.

I won't get into it entirely since the topic would be neither here nor there. However, I can resonate with the stress of those defending JT now than the ones who oppose him.

rikukh
Fri Jun 30 17 06:54am
Rating: 1

The raging absolutely did not go the same way both ways. There was a massive group of these anti-sjw 4channer "cuck-f*g" people, the absolutely worst, most obsessive trolls on the internet (also a big portion of GG) who basically started a succesful hating trend towards the game when a person they started looking up to because of his controversial views were "censored". There has been much, much more hate from these people compared to people who complained about his inclusion (I've never seen a single person who did that). You can see when it's a trend when you notice comment after comment of completely irrational negative points made towards the game, and I've seen plently.

I think you don't understand the effects of censorship can bring to the table.

If you have 8 min, I want you to look at this specific part of a YouTube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOqpIvSen1Q#t=16m28s

I don't believe hatred is inherently bad, just another tool humanity uses to deal or express one self.

Are there even voices, or are there random strange noises like Banjo-Kazooie? I was hoping it would just be the noises, i always liked that. If that's the case I don't really see that it matters who made the noises.

Yep, it's just the B-K styled grunts. Since JonTron was a huge fan of B-K, Playtonic asked him to voice a minor character in it.

You can hear it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gppMliYvBTY
(somewhat spoiler-ish for YL?)

So this means the Switch port will be the firs 60FPS console version to compensate for the stupid delay that could have been easily avoided with better planning, right? Remember the "Wii U is our main console" talk?

Yeah honestly after the reviews and this LONG wait for us Switch owners has made me lose all interest in this game sadly. I was gonna get the Switch version day one but since this game is taking so long to come out, the rather high price tag, and the lackluster reviews have come out made me not want to even try it out now.

Playtonic I look forward to what you do next but as of right now you lost a customer.

That's a bit negative. I actually picked it up for PS4 and, as a person who has no nostalgia for Banjo Kazooie to sway their opinion in either direction... The game was better than I expected. And I think they are fixing 99% of my own criticisms of the game with the patch.

I would just try it for yourself because the reviews are an awful gauge for the game. Too much nostalgia is causing people to love it no matter what because nostalgia or hate it because nostalgia.

Actually, I'd be interested to see how/if RMC does a review for it.

I was really hyped for this game, but the criticisms on release turned me off quite a bit. I'm glad the game is getting fixes, and hopefully the Switch version will be a blast.

ddark
Fri Jun 30 17 01:04am
Rating: 2 (Updated 1 time)

I think they brought on a lot of the problems with the game themselves (and I'm not talking about the JonTron crap. Couldn't care less that they removed him.)

They originally targeted Wii U as their lead console, raised money on the backs of Nintendo gamers, then got too big for their britches and decided to port the game to everything (and cancel the Wii U version.) Maybe they should have focused on their lead platform and delivered the the best game possible to the backers that paid for its development. Instead, they got greedy, spread themselves too thin, and their game suffered.

If they try hard enough, pretty sure they can blame the cancellation on the whole JT crap and people would eat that up and cheer the Wii U was cancelled.

Bring back JonTron 😣 His voice is great and he would be great.

He literally played a gibberish voice for a toilet. Less than 3 seconds of audio replayed at different pitches.

Well that sucks.

I always thought he did have one of the more pleasant and interesting voices from the YouTube gamer channels.

Everyone is asking for them to bring back one particular voice... I think they should get rid of all voices altogether. I can't even watch footage of the game without getting annoyed at all the grunts and screeches.

I think they should get rid of all voices altogether.

Yeah that's included in the new update.

I don't get the hate (though, I do understand the hate from the backers). I'm looking forward to this game on switch, I don't care about reviews when what you see is what you get. It feels like Star Fox Zero or Devil's Third (the last one being really serious). I played those games despite the reviews and criticism, and found some really fun games. So, if you know what you are getting and you like it just like that, go for it.

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