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Switch Online NES games will run in 'HD resolution,' and will offer filters

A few more tidbits about the upcoming NES games for the Switch Online service. A bit of documentaion from Nintendo shows that these NES games are going to run at 'HD resolution,' but a specific number is not given. On top of that, we also see that there will be various filter options for the games, but again, there's no breakdown as to what those filters are.

Categories: Top Stories, Consoles
Tags: eshop, nes, switch

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People aren't ONLY complaining about 30 year old games that many of those listed above simply aren't that fun to play anymore. They're complaining because the ACTUAL online service is lacking SEVERELY. Where's on system voice chat, messaging system, Twitch support, cross game chat, party chat, achievement system, internet browser, multimedia apps besides just Hulu, dedicated servers, cloud saves for ALL software, system themes, instagram support for screenshot/video capture sharing, being able to search for friends using usernames and not friend codes, etc.

THAT'S why myself and others are complaining about this lackluster online service that Nintendo delayed by two years and originally promised both SNES games part of the service (which hold up MUCH better by todays standards than lame NES games do), and special offers which Nintendo is STILL refusing to talk about damn near 2 years in. Yes you can throw up the "BUT IT'Z ONLY $20 A YEAR!" spiel to me. But TO ME even at $20 a year this "service" holds absolutely no value! Yes don't get it twisted I'm gonna buy it but only because of Smash Bros. Which Nintendo knows Smash would be the only reason people would buy this lame excuse for an online service which is why they delayed it by 2 years. I'm sorry but if we got even HALF of what PSN/Xbox Live users get with their online subscriptions I would've GLADLY payed more for their service instead of reluctantly bitter about paying it only because of Smash. Hell it's a shame when the Wii, 3DS, and Wii U had WAYY better online and more features than the Switch does in 2018 and it was FREE!

This whole system is so much better than what they did before. Upscaling, unfettered access to dozens of classics, enhancements, one low price for a subscription to unlimited games. Yet people complain.

I mean you literally get the same thing with NES Classic, and most (if not all) of the same initial games even.

It's not that big a revelation. And people aren't wrong for watching them to continue the VC, not this.

merrycatto
Sun Sep 16 18 05:10pm
Rating: 2 (Updated 1 time)

They expected way too much for $20. But people are seething with rage over little things.

People aren't ONLY complaining about 30 year old games that many of those listed above simply aren't that fun to play anymore. They're complaining because the ACTUAL online service is lacking SEVERELY. Where's on system voice chat, messaging system, Twitch support, cross game chat, party chat, achievement system, internet browser, multimedia apps besides just Hulu, dedicated servers, cloud saves for ALL software, system themes, instagram support for screenshot/video capture sharing, being able to search for friends using usernames and not friend codes, etc.

THAT'S why myself and others are complaining about this lackluster online service that Nintendo delayed by two years and originally promised both SNES games part of the service (which hold up MUCH better by todays standards than lame NES games do), and special offers which Nintendo is STILL refusing to talk about damn near 2 years in. Yes you can throw up the "BUT IT'Z ONLY $20 A YEAR!" spiel to me. But TO ME even at $20 a year this "service" holds absolutely no value! Yes don't get it twisted I'm gonna buy it but only because of Smash Bros. Which Nintendo knows Smash would be the only reason people would buy this lame excuse for an online service which is why they delayed it by 2 years. I'm sorry but if we got even HALF of what PSN/Xbox Live users get with their online subscriptions I would've GLADLY payed more for their service instead of reluctantly bitter about paying it only because of Smash. Hell it's a shame when the Wii, 3DS, and Wii U had WAYY better online and more features than the Switch does in 2018 and it was FREE!

merrycatto
Sun Sep 16 18 05:26pm
Rating: 2

Spoiler alert, most games even on other platforms are p2p.

You're right but even so dedicated servers would definitely help. My experience with Switch online so far has been mediocre AT BEST. Communication errors after every other match in Splatoon 2 or Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, EXTREME LAG in Mario Tennis Aces, ARMS, as well as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. No it's not MY connection I get good connection speeds and I don't have problems AT ALL when I play online on my PS4. Hell besides Smash Bros. Wii U had better online play than Switch currently does.

Even without the dedicated servers, you just totally skipped over EVERY other feature I listed that a LOT of them have been the standard since 2005...like I said Wii U, Wii, and 3DS have features Switch doesn't have and it's free!

panurgejr
Sun Sep 16 18 05:30pm
Rating: 1

It's only $20 a year.

WE ALL KNOW THAT! $20 is EXTREMELY cheap but it still has NO VALUE! It's basically giving Nintendo $20 a year for nothing at all but to play Smash online which we could do for free on Wii U/3DS with triple the features Switch has. I'm going to get it, no doubt about it I already have it pre-ordered but it still sucks because it feels like Nintendo is holding us ransom because Smash Bros...

panurgejr
Sun Sep 16 18 07:05pm
Rating: 1

$20 a year is perfectly reasonable for basic online capability with literally no other features. Online gaming is a service that Nintendo or any company has always been entitled to charge for, because companies are entitled to charge for any service they provide. That's how capitalism works. Prices go up over time, and the fact that the price used to be zero is absolutely no argument that it should remain zero. All of these complaints are from people divorced from the reality of economics who reek of entitlement.

Instead of comparing it to the services that cost three times as much and finding it lacking, realize that they didn't put that in and that's why it's cheaper. Man, you're so worked up. You WANT all those features, and you act like you are owed them. Buy an Xbox.

bluntzy75
Sun Sep 16 18 05:47pm
Rating: 3

So they should charge more and make it good.. not give us trash for $20

Nintendo's online service in 2018 compared to their own offerings between 2007-2016 is like me giving you a double cheeseburger with lettuce, onions, pickles, bacon, tomato, mustard, and ketchup for free everyday. But then all of a sudden give you a hamburger with nothing but 1 patty and a bun and deciding to charge you $20 for it.

a $20 price point doesn't excuse shit quality. It could be $3 a year for all we know and it would still not be a good service in the slightest. It's actually pretty embarrassing that there's no way to text chat or communicate with your Switch friends in any other way besides the voice chat option, when you could text chat via Miiverse on Wii U, day one.

Not to mention the fact you can't even keep the NES games due to them only being linked to the subscription (while PS Plus lets you buy the games for good if you so prefer) so if they add Tetris to the service, I better make sure I can play it for as long as possible since knowing the Tetris company, the rights could go bye bye at any moment, and there's no download list or thing to leave on my system to save it like GB Tetris on my 3DS, which is still kicking.

panurgejr
Sun Sep 16 18 07:08pm
Rating: 1

You don't get to keep Netflix movies.

You don't get to keep Sirius XM songs.

You don't get to keep library books.

You don't get to keep NES games on the Switch.

Feel free to argue that you should get to keep any of these.

You can buy Library Books in certain libraries. You can buy Sirius XM songs since all the ones they get are in print. Same with most Netflix movies save for exclusive. (but even some like Stranger Things get DVD/BR releases sooner or later)

The major difference with NES games comes from that they aren't in print anymore and there's no modern way to buy a new copy or download them to another system. Outside of the ones done to death like SMB1 and LOZ which are on Wii U/3DS, games like Pro Wrestling or Twinbee have never seen a US release in their original NES forms in 30 years, and in Twinbee's case you only have the 3D Classics version. Unlike digital only games, where you can still keep the games on your systems even after servers go down if you never delete them, a subscription service reliant on the service will one day end and unless they somehow let you buy your favorites to keep, then this is pretty much an awful way to go.

Just because it's like Netflix doesn't mean it's a good idea, since again, with NF I can typically buy most of the stuff I see if I really like it. There are some unfortunate exceptions, same with Amazon/iTunes. Lots of Disney Shows are only on those services but you can't buy them on a DVD, which is beyond infuriating for shows like Code Lyoko I liked so much growing up. They do try to make this better by having DVD-R prints for niche programs, but even those will eventually be unavailable to buy. (although they do at least exist.)

In a way, you could kinda say the NES/SNES Classics are another form of this DVD-R method, where they find a way to rerelease obscure old things in a physical format that isn't the same as the device you played it on years ago. Same for gaming compilations, which is why companies like Digital Eclipse are doing a good job in putting games like Crystalis and Mega Man in circulation again. A game like Pro Wrestling or Twinbee being doomed to an online only service is something I can't get behind. Time will tell if Nintendo will maybe do a good alternate and have a "best of" series where you can buy select games on a compilation to keep forever, but I really do miss the older form of VC, and so do others. The sub service would be 100% fine with me if you could pay the standard $5 to keep your absolute favorites forever and have the others be for the sake of sampling or playing if you aren't really in love with any of them.

Curious that in all of your examples of things you can buy you don't consider that they also go out of print and you can't buy new copies of them either. I'd like to see people demand book publishers keep stuff in print as much as they're demanding Nintendo do so.

a $20 price point doesn't excuse shit quality.

No, but you forget a thing called PATENTS.

Say Nintendo does everything you want. What happens next?

MICROSOFT, SONY, etc. WOULD SUE NINTENDO FOR INFRINGEMENT.

"But Nintendo could..." Stop. Stop. Stop. Nintendo could get patent licenses, sure, BUT THEN THE 20 DOLLARS NINTENDO ASKS BECOMES 100 DOLLARS AS NIN CAN'T EAT THE COSTS ALONE.

You can't get everything you want in life and demanding Nintendo bend over to cater to you IS NOT FEASIBLE. If you want shit to change, get patent laws, get copyright laws, and get trademark laws changed in the US Congress. Otherwise you're just asking Nintendo to bankrupt itself trying to be Xbox Live 2 or PSN 2.
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"But Sony and Microsoft wouldn't..." They would sue at a drop of a hat because infringement is treated as a serious crime in America. You can pay more for infringements than you do from beating up a guy on a street.

this has got to be by far the most absurd explanation for the lack of features I've seen yet. There's no way that there's a patent against adding text chat among friends, or peer to peer servers, because Nintendo themselves allowed it on Wii U and also 3DS in the form of Miiverse and Swapnote.

This "Sony/MS conspire to ruin Nintendo conspiracy has got to stop. Nintendo's at fault here, and that's that. It's not that hard to even figure out considering how even they seem to know it, since the delay appears to be caused by how they added cloud saves and took a while.

Please share these patents. Oh right, they don’t exist and you’re talking horseshovel.

Sun Sep 16 18 05:39pm
Rating: 1 (Updated 1 time)

Well, the one thing I complain about is not owning the games. On Wii and Wii U, I can play the NES games I've bought even in 50 years, even if Nintendo goes bankrupt or whatever. With the Switch's system, I can play them exactly as long as the system is profitable for Nintendo. One day, they'll just pull the plug, and all games are gone, and my personal saves, records and other data with them.

Of course there are other means of getting to own the games I want (even if this means hunting down actual carts), but still: Just as Netflix has it's streaming-only, not-on-BR exclusives, Nintendo might just have exclusive content distributed this way one day. Just look at what is already happening with RE7 or Assassin's Creed. And just like more than 20 years ago with the SatellaView system, we will see more and more volatile content that will simply disappear one day.

Of course, this is what the majority of consumers actually wants, and yes, something about buying physical media seems odd and old fashioned these days. But still: I don't like where all of this is heading.

Probably 720p since that’s the resolution of Switch screen.

The cloud saves alone are worth $20 for me. Everything else is just a bonus.

ridleysaria
Sun Sep 16 18 06:24pm
Rating: 1

I was thinking about subscribing for the cloud saves alone, but that was before we learned how badly they’re handling it. Maybe they’ll listen to the criticism and fix the problems (doubtful, Nintendo is nothing if not tone deaf). Until then, I’ll just have to take my chances. I’m not going to give Nintendo even a measly $20 for this joke of a service. Maybe I’ll begrudgingly sign up to play Animal Crossing online, but until then it’s a big fat waste. At least save that subscription time for when I’ll actually get something from it.

How much do you want to bet Animal Crossing won’t support cloud saves either?

Knowing how Japanese users are actually in strong support of this service and how Nintendo seems to only care about Japanese people for some things like this... I'm sadly in the belief they'll not give AC cloud saves and will get away with it. Even though there's zero damn excuse for them to at least design that game with some sort of backup in mind since it's months away. If they actually listened to NOA/NOE and people in those regions, I think they would learn that there's so, so many ways they could make this a better system.

Heck, part of me suspects that hopefully the cloud save addition was done because people in the west really, really wanted some form of a backup system. I don't know if Japanese people would be as worried about backups due to the local nature of the system and how much easier it is to communicate and play locally there, but if they delayed it a year just for cloud saves, then I hope they'll be able to implement other much needed additions because of western feedback.

There's probably close to 100% chance Animal Crossing will not support cloud saves. And it's bonkers... AC is a case where you can have hundreds of hours of progress you would want backed up.

That being said, even the incomplete cloud save system they're giving us is one I welcome. I'd hate to lose my progress on Breath of the Wild or Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

I definitely thought about my Breath of the Wild save. That’s like 200 hours. But I’m also pretty much done with the game, so would it really be the end of the world if I lost it now?

Definitely worried about future support. Nintendo doing it this way means I have no faith in how they’ll handle anything, since any dev can deny the support. I’ll definitely continue playing third party games on PS4 where I don’t need to worry about it.

You still can if you don’t resubscribe.

I think we need to see what it feels like in action. It seems lite now but it could grow into something worthwhile This is Nintendo's first real shot at a paid service and when something is paid for, even a little bit, it has to be held to some standard but I'm willing to wait til it launchs to pass judgement.

That’s a reasonable outlook to have but at the same time Nintendo could have been figuring these things out for years. Microsoft was the canary in the coal mine, what, seventeen years ago? Playing catch up is an old excuse. First paid service or not, Nintendo should get with the times.

The people defending this "service" are freaking delusional. lol Nothing you say can justify this lousy excuse for an online service when Nintendo THEMSELVES not even comparing to Microsoft/Sony have done it better in the past for FREE. I wouldn't even be complaining about the $20 a year if Nintendo gave us the stuff they've ALREADY shown they were capable of giving us in the past!

Yes people who are defending this YOU are in the minority. Every site you go to the comments are mostly negative, EVERY major Nintendo youtuber has made a video on how lame and lackluster this service is. The like/dislike ratio on the official trailer video on youtube is 17,000 dislikes to 5,000 likes. I haven't seen that much negativity on a youtube video of Nintendo's since the days of Federation Force. This is my last post in here about this subject as I feel the few of you in here defending it are taking crazy pills.

Good to know most of you in here actually have some sense (looking at my comment with the most upvotes).

ridleysaria
Sun Sep 16 18 08:54pm
Rating: 1

People can have their options even if we don’t agree. You might be right, but perhaps it’s best avoid calling people delusional.

Yeah you're right it was harsh. I apologize for that. I try to avoid the name calling but man this service just gets me heated. lol Because I know Nintendo can do better, we WANT Nintendo to do better and deep down we ALL know they can (like I've stated they shown that they can in the past). Yes I know I'm part of the problem since I bought a subscription I just fear if we support this Nintendo is gonna think they're doing good when in reality they're not. Maybe all the backlash they're getting online will give them a wake up call but honestly I doubt it. They knew from day 1 almost everyone and their mother hated the smartphone app but what did Nintendo do? They doubled down on it...so I'm not holding my breath.

ridleysaria
Sun Sep 16 18 09:35pm
Rating: 1

Yeah, I’m also super critical of Nintendo because I love them but expect better. In some people’s eyes that makes me a troll and I’ve certainly been called that. I try not to bite back - we can’t come to an understanding if we’re not civil.

I hope Nintendo improves. I’ll at least express how I feel and it will add to the collective outcry. Maybe some of it will get through.

Don’t worry, man. They’ll be crying foul when they lose all of their cloud saves because they didn’t resubscribe or sign in once every 7 days. What a joke!

Okay, this seriously needs to end. If you actually cared to read the article(s?) that are stating it basically happens immediately, the disclaimer reads that Nintendo can't guarantee that they'll still be up after unsubbing. You know why? Its literally EVERY SINGLE CLOUD SERVICE WITH A SUB BASED SYSTEM! Pokemon Bank does it, and even PlayStation 4 has that issue too. It's because if you're unsubbed for like half a year, why should they continue using up space for your stuff when they can free it up for people who are actively subbed? It's not the best thing in the world, but I'm tired of this spread of misinformation.

Yeah, because cloud saves are such huge files. 😂 Come on, dude.

If you're not paying them anymore, you're not entitled to a single byte of their server space.

Okay. Yet you don’t need to be a paying customer to get cloud saves on Xbox. Again, I’m not arguing against WHY they’re doing it; I’m saying it’s stupid and anti-consumer. Blind Nintendo fanboys don’t get it.

Stupid and anti-consumer, yes, we agree. I'm just pointing out that "the files aren't big" is not an argument.

I have 10GB of cloud saves on the PS4 🙄

panurgejr
Sun Sep 16 18 10:19pm
Rating: 1

Proud to be in the minority on this one. But it's not out of delusion.

wobblebobble
Mon Sep 17 18 08:53pm
(Updated 1 time)

Oh, but people who post angry video game comments that go on for paragraphs are the actual minority. You're a good guy, and I'm sorry you're so upset about this. But put it in perspective.

socar
Sun Sep 16 18 11:31pm
Rating: 1

And why do people still want an achievement system. Is beyond me.

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