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Nintendo working with ISPs to send out copyright strikes to those pirating games

For years and years now, publishers/distributors for movies, TV shows, and music have been working with internet service providers to send out copyright strikers to users illegally downloading content. While each ISP is different, most will allow a certain number of 'strikes' before they remove service from the user. Now Nintendo is getting in on that action.

A Spectrum user who decided to illegally download The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild has been sent a copyright strike notice. Spectrum is working on behalf of Nintendo in this instance, who appears to be working with ISPs to try and squash illegal downloads of their games. While Spectrum is the only company we have info for right now, it's very likely Nintendo has teamed up with a number of companies to takes the same precautions.

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Sat Dec 15 18 01:46pm
Rating: 8 (Updated 1 time)

Sorry, but you are defending illegal downloading of games / piracy / theft because Nintendo doesn't offer you a legal alternative?

A. That's just stupid.
B. That's not what was the case here. This was about ILLEGAL downloading of The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild. A game which is really easily legally available to everyone with a Switch.

cassidy
Sat Dec 15 18 11:33am
Rating: 1

Theoretical question. Could you file a counter-claim if you already own a physical copy of the game or does evidence that you downloaded it negate that?

Just having a physical copy doesn't mean you can download for free and it's fine. Both the digital version and the physical version are different sellable things despite being the same game.

I don’t think so. It’s legal however to make a digital “backup” of a physical game you own.

As long as you:

A. Don't remove a copy protection.
and B. download it from your original media.

Downloading a game without permission from the publisher of the internet is ILLEGAL. This is for any game on any system.

Yes I meant that the copy is taken from the physical copy you own.

Simply downloading copyrighted material isn’t illegal everywhere. Distributing copyrighted material is illegal in most places.

I wonder how long this would last before isp's start losing customers left and right for downloading "pirated" games

Use a VPN and don't let your ISP spy on you whether you download roms or not.

Sure, let the VPN spy on you. So when Nintendo / the police takes down the VPN they STILL can find you.

nsm
Sat Dec 15 18 12:30pm
Rating: 3

Nintendo's kind of getting into dicey territory when it comes to public relations, I think. Mostly because I doubt they'll just focus on people downloading Switch games.
When you go after those that host the pirated games, sell the pirated games, etc., some people might get irritated and offended on principle, but at the end of the day it's a minor inconvenience for most.
But when you go after the people downloading the games for personal use... then you have a larger group of people who will look more closely at the discontinuation of the NES and SNES Classic, the death of the Virtual Console, and the meager offerings of Nintendo Switch Online. And probably get pretty upset.
You know what really cut down on the downloading and streaming of pirated movies?
Netflix. Before all its competitors sprouted up and took away its content, I mean.
Sure, there's some who won't pay money for these games no matter what. But for a larger group, if they would make the downloading convenient and reasonably priced, Nintendo would likely find a nice source of revenue.

Sat Dec 15 18 01:46pm
Rating: 8 (Updated 1 time)

Sorry, but you are defending illegal downloading of games / piracy / theft because Nintendo doesn't offer you a legal alternative?

A. That's just stupid.
B. That's not what was the case here. This was about ILLEGAL downloading of The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild. A game which is really easily legally available to everyone with a Switch.

groose
Sat Dec 15 18 09:59pm
Rating: 3 (Updated 1 time)

I'm sure you feel satisfied with yourself for shutting that guy down for "defending illegal downloading of games", what with your four upvotes and his none, but you completely missed his point by cherrypicking around one crucial sentence:

Mostly because I doubt they'll just focus on people downloading Switch games.

So point B is moot. The idea is that Nintendo is going after potential customers by essentially having their internets taken away from them, when these are precisely the people who benefit the most from and would likely pay for a Netflix-like Nintendo service with a robust library.

Sat Dec 15 18 11:06pm
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Sorry, but you are defending illegal downloading of games / piracy / theft because Nintendo doesn't offer you a legal alternative?

A. That's just stupid.

No, that is, in fact, the very best reason one can put forth in defense of piracy. There is absolutely nothing stupid about realizing the importance of preserving and providing public access to culture.

arod79
Sun Dec 16 18 05:51pm
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I'm afraid your "culture" is another company's entertainment (that provides for thousands plus their families) that is here, still, today. The look on a judge's face after you look him straight in the eyes and say, "it's my right to access and take someone else's property because it's part of my culture" would be too good man. lol

Nowhere did I in any way suggest that it is acceptable to pirate games that are still readily available on the first-hand market. Next time, try reading instead of belting out a kneejerk response in defense of your favorite corporation.

You're right, basically you're saying games that are not available on the first-hand market are free game. So you do accept piracy as long as it meets your criteria. If a company chooses to not to make their property available, then guess what, it's not available. All of you guys who think you can do whatever you want with other people's shit have one severe sense of self entitlement. Disguise it as whatever you wish.

Not that I’m pirating games, but I do use a VPN service on all my devices so ISPs can’t track me in general. I have nothing to hide, but that’s not the point.

Sat Dec 15 18 01:36pm
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However the VPN provider can track you, and basically they act as an ISP in this matter.

If you really want to go anonymous you'll have to go through the Dark Web (a.k.a. Tor) And then make sure you don't use the same exit node too often.

Or maybe, just buy the game..

It’s got nothing to do with not buying a game. As I said.

Believe them or not, many VPNs have a zero log policy and are independently audited. There’s no more guarantee to being anonymous using TOR.

VPNs are REQUIRED by LAW to keep logs. (At least here in Europe).

That's easily handled.

https://nordvpn.com/features/strict-no-logs-policy/

NordVPN is based away from the EU and US jurisdictions and is not required to collect your personal data and information

https://nordvpn.com/blog/popular-myths-about-vpn-logging-debunked/

I would trust an independently verified VPN service over TOR any day.

Sat Dec 15 18 02:03pm
Rating: 1 (Updated 1 time)

Don't try to tell me that user was downloading a backup. Emulation for older games is entirely fair, it's a great way to archive games, and all games deserved to be archived. But for new games that are on sale, there's no defense, this is blatant piracy. Downloading ROMs is not a grey area, it has been defined a long time ago as illegal, emulators themselves are entirely legal. Nintendo has every right to do this, and in the case of modern games, they should, you need to support developers who invest in their in the industry, especially when they are actually a positive force for game design and employee treatment. If this was an N64 game、yeah, then we'd have a problem, but it's not, it's Breath of the Wild.

elfteiroh
Sat Dec 15 18 03:07pm
Rating: 1

It's not new. I got a letter from Videotron (ISP here in Quebec) 6, 7 years ago, because I downloaded all the music of DKC 1-2-3, and the roms were also in the download. I removed the roms, as I have them on VC anyway, so I was very confused to be accused of downloading these roms.
But yeah, it's not something new.

jayvir
Sat Dec 15 18 06:10pm
Rating: 1

There's really no reason to NOT support Nintendo do in this case unless you pirate yourself. The guy stole a game. That's it. No "backups" or whatever nonsense changes that fact.

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