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Pokemon Sword & Shield using similar, if not the exact same animations from Pokemon Sun & Moon

Fans are NOT happy

Pokemon Co. and Game Freak can't seem to catch a break lately with Pokemon Sword & Shield. News of the game not including all previous Pokemon has sent fans into a frenzy, and now they're out to hunt down anything/everything that enrages them. The latest findings point to reused animations in Sword and Shield, which characters having movements that appear to be ripped straight from titles like Pokemon Sun and Moon.

Games reusing animations from previous installments isn't really all that new, but fans were expecting a bit more for the series' first mainline jump to consoles. Is this sort of revelation a deal-breaker for you?

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The videos in question conveniently leave out the new animations. They show a video of Dynamax Raichu landing the exact same way as old Raichu, but not the entry animation afterwards, which Raichu never had... The same applies to when you encounter any wild Pokemon, they have entry animations, which they did not have before

I really don't mind that they reused the "receiving damage" animation, as it's really not important. This kind of comparison is very annoying, because it's cherry-picked and obviously they're not going to redo every single animation, that's a waste of time.

ninjablaze
Wed Jul 03 19 03:48pm
Rating: 3

it wouldn't be a problem........if they didn't use the excuse that this new fancy engine and animations are the reason there's no national dex.

archer9234
Wed Jul 03 19 04:00pm
Rating: 1 (Updated 1 time)

Yeah. No one cared that things get reused. It saves time and money. Ultra Sun and Moon still used the 2D Sprites. For the menu and box from RUBY & SAPPHIRE. But when it's used to justified cuts, and they do this. They failed.

superchris
Wed Jul 03 19 04:05pm
Rating: 2

I'm gonna play devil's advocate... they said new animations. Doesn't mean they aren't also using old ones. The models too look a ton better tho. But a couple of those animations that are similar do seem a little tweaked. Like the first one didn't have an open mouth in the 3DS but now it has a full working open mouth. And unless the camera angle was causing it I think the pose is slightly changed too. There could be a similar animation in the 3DS game but I don't think that was the best example to start with.

The videos in question conveniently leave out the new animations. They show a video of Dynamax Raichu landing the exact same way as old Raichu, but not the entry animation afterwards, which Raichu never had... The same applies to when you encounter any wild Pokemon, they have entry animations, which they did not have before

I really don't mind that they reused the "receiving damage" animation, as it's really not important. This kind of comparison is very annoying, because it's cherry-picked and obviously they're not going to redo every single animation, that's a waste of time.

ngamer01
Wed Jul 03 19 04:29pm
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Recycling assets is a part of the franchise's MO, but they do issue new updates over time. Take the old Pokemon Stadium series that started from Gen 1 and ended with Gen 4. Even with Gen 4's Battle Revolution, you still had some Pokemon that didn't look too much different from Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2, but some Pokemon received new animations for Battle Revolution that didn't appear in Stadium 1 or 2.

It's probably likely that they cut out Pokemon to fit the Dynamax stuff and to justify either a 3rd version to Sword and Shield that will have all the missing Pokemon with the Pokemon from Sword and Shield not returning or plan to make a Sword 2 and Shield 2 with the missing Pokemon. It's what this franchise does.

Here's my take. Dynamax really is just resizing Pokemon models, and I really doubt it has anything to do with the removal of the National Dex. The animations that are shown during dynamax aren't exclusive to it, they're also used in normal battles. Dynamax just adds some fancy effects, but that's not really anything animation wise. In the E3 demo it was also shown that Pokemon have a victory animation following the win of a gym battle. There's a lot of animations that haven't really been shown off, or at least not well, because of how little content we actually have to look at...

If the final game really doesn't have any new substantial content, I'll be as upset as anyone, but from what I've seen, ignoring the fact that this is also pre-release footage, I'm confident that upon release, a lot of this "laziness" will be proven wrong.

There's also the fact that the stuff we've been seeing is non-final. Game Freak is a secretive studio and only lets out exactly the information they want out while furiously working quietly.

A related example was how overpowered Bayonetta was discovered to be in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate prior to the game's release. Though an easier thing to tweak, that she was nerfed significantly in the intervening time does prove that, at least sometimes, people who make video games continue to improve on what was already available to play pre-release.

That's what I thought in the first place, they are using the same animations and models. I'm sure the sun and moon models they had were developed in HD to begin with

hawk
Wed Jul 03 19 04:42pm
Rating: 2

I never expected them to start from scratch, especially in regards to the animations. I'll be waiting to see more of the game before I start to call shenanigans.

I'm still going to be getting a Galar Pokémon game. It doesn't change the fact that I always make my first two or three teams (or sometimes more) based solely on what is available within the games. I actually used to theme it entirely on Pokémon from the most recent generation, though doing it for Generation VI proved to be very difficult. I'm also not too concerned about collecting; whenever I make an effort to do so, it's because I get useful goodies based on Pokédex completion, like the Shiny Charm and the Oval Charm.

As long as Pokémon Home can continue to support every species, I'll be okay. I'm patient.

Considering that they are terrible at making 3d games, I don't see why they wouldn't reuse the animations...

1. Fans are never happy.

2. I didn't notice. SwSh looks good to me. *shrug*

archer9234
Thu Jul 04 19 01:12pm
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Happy with R/G/B/Y.

Happy with G/S/C.

Happy with Pokemon Stadium 0/1/2.

Happy with R/S/E. Annoyed forced to buy remakes FR/LG to complete Dex.

Happy with Col/XD.

Happy with D/P/PT. Happy wasn't forced to buy remakes HG/SS/OR/AS.

Disappointed with lack of elements from Stadium in PBR. Happy with graphics and attention to Pokemon Battle detail. (This company could have worked on the old Pokemon across the 4.5 years. While GF built the new game.)

Disappointed with Black & White's story. Skipped B/W2

Fine with X/Y.

Happy that a version of R/G/B/Y/G/S/C is un-orphaned from the transfer line. Still wish a hardware adapter was made for the original GB/GBC games.

Disappointed with Sun & Moon missing National Dex, to keep track of my Pokemon. Island story did not work good as a Gym replacement. Rotom is the worst Pokedex. Annoyed at Ultra Sun/Moon added nothing.

Not purchasing SW/SH with them being orphaned. Removing the new mechanics from Sun/Moon is unacceptable. Not going to buy remakes of D/P. Pulling the same tactics with FR/LG. Waiting till new mainline game has all Pokemon available by transferring.

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