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Good god is Twitter toxic...I don't see why every corporation or brand or account needs to say anything or even donate anything. It's cool that they did sure, but it's Nintendo, there's no reason why they're obligated to do so or why they're obligated to donate.

Good god is Twitter toxic...I don't see why every corporation or brand or account needs to say anything or even donate anything. It's cool that they did sure, but it's Nintendo, there's no reason why they're obligated to do so or why they're obligated to donate.

hawk
Wed Jun 03 20 12:02pm
Rating: 3

Yeah, watching the situation it's clear they were pestered and bullied into making this message. It's a message I think most people agree with, but I hate that they were practically forced to do it. It's like if people threw rocks at you until you declared that "Eating babies is wrong".

I'm not sure they were. It seems more likely that they were having a back and forth with headquarters in Japan to configure the message.

I'm curious what you see as evidence of being bullied into it.

mybodyisready
Wed Jun 03 20 12:21pm
Rating: 9 (Updated 1 time)

How insensitive can you be? They have black employees. Black people are consistently hurt at the hands of our police more-so than white people. Their store was broken into, they are involved in this conversation just as much as anyone in this world is. We are all human. Everyone is obligated to be a human here. The fact that any of you are upset that they made a statement, speaks more to your character of what kind of person you are.

Couldn't agree more Nintendo wasnt pressured into doing anything. They chose to make this statement in fact they are like the last major gaming to say anything. I wasnt expecting Nintendo to address and Im so glad they did and Im so glad NOA is actually making donations behind the scenes. They care about people unlike some people on twitter and apparently in here as well.

The twitter is toxic but not because "pressuring a multi billion corporation with black employees to donate" but the fact that people are comparing a broken window in New York to a human life and not just one but hundreds of others lost due to police negligence and brutality. Or people just making insensitive racist jokes on the twitter feed comparing black people to the Kong family members and other shit or acting like the next Nintendo Direct is more important than real life human issues.

#BlackLivesMatter

Agreed.

This sort out outlook isn't new.

backup368
Wed Jun 03 20 12:54pm
Rating: 5 (Updated 1 time)

"Black people are consistently hurt at the hands of our police more-so than white people."

Completely ignorant statement.

Studies have proven that a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

When your “source” is the “news” outlet founded by man-child Ben Shapiro you’ve already lost.

You probably are implying that only new outlets that you like are truthful? Equality am I right?

I won’t include the news outlet, the data is what is important, not the spin.
You can see the sources of information at the bottom of the graphic.

Spoiler: A lot of it comes from police forces themselves.

Would you rather FBI statistics? The information is readily available for anyone that wants to actually look at it. White people are killed more often at the hands of police. You could argue that this is because there are more white people in the United States, but it also applies to per capita.

The poster was pointing out a fallacy in a statement, one that seems to be repeated even during the age of the internet, where information is at everyone's fingertips. That's the part that is interesting to me.

It's also interesting that there seems to be a misconception that George Floyd was a good guy. His violent nature has been documented by authorities multiple times in the past. Again, information that is readily available.

See the data I posted above. Same data as the FBI because, guess what, they get it from the police departments. And it’s arranged per capita...just for you. But for some reason it doesn’t fit your narrative....interesting.

Who said anything about if George Floyd was a good or bad guy. Did his past crimes or reports to police warrant his murder? His last encounter with police was after being caught trying to spend a small amount of counterfeit money. And he was killed for it. All information readily available.

There's no point in debating with people that blindly believe in the police.

How he can point out more White people are killed by police and acknowledge that the White population is larger and not start to connect the dots himself is a flag.

It'd be one thing if he seems genuinely open to discussion and learning, but a few of the commenters on these articles are very set in their ways, and are using any tactic to avoid logic and reality.

We appreciate all the reports about this post, and while it may not be a popular opinion, it's not technically breaking any rules nor is it uncivil. We'll not be taking any action against this post or user, but will if anyone wants to be uncivil or retaliate.

thedreaminghawk
Thu Jun 04 20 02:36pm
(Updated 1 time)

I hate to say this, but if you really want to try and pull a both sides on this issue, at least consider lifting the restriction that prevents users like me from blocking more than one person in a 15 minute period. I just want to ignore those who are trying to start stuff with comments such as the ones people reported and clearly have trouble with due to concern trolling, so I and others don't do a knee-jerk reply,, so I should be able to do so, but I can't. At least please consider something like that.

Was this directed at me?

I'm not taking sides on anything, though if it's anyone's business (which it's not), based on their comments across various stories, I don't personally align with their sociopolitical views either.

Just saying that the specific comment reported didn't technically break any of our rules, and I'm not going to moderate someone because lots of people disagree with his opinions. Remember this the next time any of you might have an unpopular opinion around here, because I'm inclined to do the same for everyone.

Knee jerk replies? 🤣 Self restraint/discipline is the responsibility of all users. We can't do it for anyone 👍

thedreaminghawk
Thu Jun 04 20 04:13pm
(Updated 1 time)

Except statistic misinformation seems less like an "unpopular opinion" and more like a way to deliberately rile people up and make the comment section worse? (I literally do not see any positive outcome outside of just continuing an argument which is not a thing I like to see on that relatively peaceful site) I mean, you have to make a stand somewhere. And while I agree on self restraint being up to the user (I just stuck to liking comments I agreed with for this one to not get too involved, myself), that doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice to have the 15 minute wait on ignoring users lifted or lowered at least so people can easily just mute out those that try to start trouble. It would help a pretty big amount for touchy situations like these. This site's relatively awesome and I've been here since 2013, but even I think this may be a bit of a suspect choice and maybe at least something to reconsider for the future (though I find comment sections like these to thankfully be the exception here on GN, not the norm)

Putting aside self-restraint, it would be nice to have the fifteen minutes lifted if a good number of these people come in pretty quick, and the rest of us aren't wanting to be exposed to that kind of negativity. If their comments aren't negative enough to be edited or removed, it would be nice to if we could easier avoid them.

It's exhausting for some of us are experiencing this situation, having to worry about our own physical welfare offline, and looking for something online where we can catch a break. To come here and see people being insensitive to our stances and even livelihoods isn't great, and being able to block more of them at a time would be a great help.

If it's just a lot of work on the code end or something, understandable and that's unfortunately that. But otherwise, is it so impossible?

thermithral
Wed Jun 03 20 01:00pm
Rating: 4 (Updated 1 time)

My issue with these corporations all taking part in this situation is similar to what you just said. Corporations are not humans. They do not feel, they are not alive in any context, there are constructs of our design. They are effectively guilds which exist to translate labor into money over time, and the majority of people within the company are not so much a representative of the company as they are cogs to be used for generally a single task.

Companies also, generally, do not represent their employees in any social or political capacity. If the employees of any individual company have something to say in relation these current events, be it for or against the protests, riots and such, the duty to convey that support falls on the individual, not their employer. Unless the corporation was built to produce or effect social or political institutions, in which case their employees duties most likely include the promotion of, said political of social views.

I have no issue with the coordinators of Nintendos social media, their bosses, up to the highest powers within the company all supporting this movement, it is their right as humans to follow what they find right and to speak to the realities they all see. I have issue with them using the company to speak for them, rather than speak for themselves. Corporations make products, they are not people and cannot be treated as equal to people, in human affairs. The words of Nintendo politically are meaningless, the words of any one of their employees has value, regardless of what they say.

Basically, I do not want Nintendo taking part in any social or political events in any form, regardless of what I as an individual think about them.

rsmith7
Wed Jun 03 20 01:28pm
Rating: 12 (Updated 1 time)

As a black person, I will say your statement about us is bullcrap. We're not the victim as the media and and people like you say we are. This isn't the 60s and decades before it anymore. Segregation hasn't been a thing in years. And slavery of blacks been over for centuries. The reason a lot of bad things happen to us blacks these days is not because of opression, it's because of the dumb actions. A lot of us constantly part take in things that get us in trouble with the law. A lot of us constantly blame white people for all of our misfortune, even though alot of it is our own fricken fault due our bad decisions. We constantly accuse whites of being racist, but a lot of us are pretty racist ourselves, especially toward whites. A lot of us still think we're oppressed somehow, but yet, we have more rights then we had before the civil movement, and too many of us blacks are too stupid to realized that. A lot of us constantly won't let go our past grievance and waddle in it instead of moving away from it. Our obsession with our past grievance is the main reason why most of us black will never move forward and improve our lives because of the media, academia, politicians, people like you constantly push it own us, which make us bitter and angry at the world. You people ain't helping us. Y'all don't really give a crap about us, especially these companies who's "virtue signaling" durring the whole mess. Y'all don't really want us to improve ourselves. Y'all (mainly politicians) want us to stay in the crappy position we're in (mainly for political motives).

You people are a bunch of frauds. All you people do is flex/grandstand, while hardly doing anything that truly improve the lives of anyone. Y'all just want to look "virtuous" in front of many.

You. You understand the real truth behind all this. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

terribledeli
Wed Jun 03 20 04:29pm
Rating: 7

This isn't the 60s and decades before it anymore. Segregation hasn't been a thing in years.

I don't even understand this statement. Are you pretending de facto segregation isn't a problem in the US? Sure, Jim Crow died in the 1960's but segregation didn't die with it.

The reason a lot of bad things happen to us blacks these days is not because of opression, it's because of the dumb actions.

So when my kids are followed around in Academy (The sports store) because of the color of their skin, it's because of dumb actions like being born the wrong skin color?

How about when one of them was picked up for wielding a PS4 controller? Even after showing courtesy to the officer and pointing out it wasn't a weapon? Dumb Actions again I guess.

Continue to bootlick and keep blaming others rather than holding up the mirror to society.

haku_firestone
Thu Jun 04 20 06:01am
Rating: 2

A lot of blanket statements and generalizations here.

"A lot of us constantly part take in things that get us in trouble with the law."

There are people of all backgrounds who get themselves in trouble with the law.

However, in this context, the outrage comes from the murder of George Floyd. He was murdered for suspicion of forging a fake $20 bill.

Similarly to how Eric Garner was murdered and choked to death on film for cigarettes.

Suspicion does not warrant his death.

The outrage and protest come from people who are tired of seeing black men women and children killed.

"A lot of us constantly blame white people for all of our misfortune, even though a lot of it is our own fricken fault due our bad decisions."

Who are these people? What percentage of black people are you making this statement on behalf of?

"Our obsession with our past grievance is the main reason why most of us black will never move forward and improve our lives because of the media, academia, politicians, people like you constantly push it own us, which make us bitter and angry at the world."

What is the point of this statement? I do not understand your point. Perhaps this is just your viewpoint, and not the viewpoint of thousands millions of other black people.

There are many black people like myself, who aren't wallowing in how "hard" it is for us. It is really an unhealthy mindset.

You should speak on your own behalf on this one.

"You people ain't helping us. Y'all don't really give a crap about us, especially these companies who's "virtue signaling" durring the whole mess. Y'all don't really want us to improve ourselves."

Can you be a bit more specific? Who are "ya'll"?

Secondly, perhaps now more than ever, black people have had several allies who have spoken up and stood beside us in our times of injustices done onto us. To discredit that is to discredit the lives of those who have stood with us on the front lines and faced injury, jail time, and perhaps even far worse.

Yes, there are some companies who are "conveniently" speaking out upon the injustices that the black community has been facing all of a sudden...

But there are also companies like Niantic, and the Pokemon companies who have been putting their money where their mouths are, and issued statements regarding their stance, in addition to having donated several hundred-thousand and millions of dollars to Black Lives Matter and similar causes.

Lastly, change and improvement is something that you can hold yourself accountable to. Who cares if others don't want you to improve? Are you going to let that stop you? When it is all said and done, the only one you can hold yourself accountable for, is you.

I genuinely can't tell if this is a response to me or Hawk due to the format of the site.

I agree.

As if Nintendo can't be concerned and outraged at the unjust murder of George Floyd.

As if because they are a Japanese gaming company, they can't take a stand on the matter.

haku_firestone
Thu Jun 04 20 06:10am
Rating: 1

@MYBODYISREADY

I agree.

As if Nintendo can't be concerned and outraged at the unjust murder of George Floyd.

As if because they are a Japanese gaming company, they can't take a stand on the matter.

Well, this is NOA and not NCL so..it makes sense.

tupin
Wed Jun 03 20 12:45pm
Rating: 2 (Updated 1 time)

They already double match any donation that their employees make.

This whole catastrophe that follows was completely unwarranted. _Nobody_ has ever stated that Floyd deserved to die. They are all behind him.

Exactly, the dude shouldn't had died, but people should've handle the whole thing WAY better then they should. All these riots ain't going to solve anything but make things worst. And the only ones who's really going to profit from this is not the people, but the crooked politicians, media, and companies who "virtue signal" during the whole mess. And it's the media who fan the fire of the whole thing. And the people who blidnly surport the riots, despite all the damage it's causing, are idiots and attention whores who don't really give crap about Floyed, or the rest of us blacks. And like the crooked polticians, media, companies who's blatantly taking advantage over the whole situation, most of the people who claim that they care about what happen to Floyed and the rest of us blacks are really just flexing/grandstanding to look "virtuous" in front of many.

Stories like this on GN are bittersweet, with the silver lining being all the shovelheads coming out of the woodwork exposing their true colours.

It’s ironic how messages of anti-racism are like a dog whistle for closet racists and bigots.

Same thing happens when Nintendo shows support for LGBT people.

rsmith7
Wed Jun 03 20 02:20pm
Rating: 1 (Updated 1 time)

What "racist" and "bigoted"? Where are the these so called "racists" and "bigoted" at you speak of? Its easy to call anyone a "racist' or "bigoted" but the real question is, can you prove it? Words like "racist", "bigote" or any other "isms" has been thrown around a lot these days, and most of the time, they are being use to label anyone that someone don't like, regardless if it's true or not. And a lot of times, it in up being false.

And don't act like you types have some kind of higher moral ground. None of us are saints, mind you.

I’m referring to people who come out in vocal and often aggressive opposition of companies like Nintendo who are throwing their support behind an important issue.

They make a statement on this, but not on the transgressions against the LGBTQ community and even removed a ProTrans level in SMM... thanks Nintendo

Endorsing employee participation in the Pride parade and donating to charities would seem to me to be supporting the LGBT+ community.

cringe, I was hoping they'd be the one company to remain benign to this. At least by acting "slow", it doesnt look like they are taking advantage of the situation like some other companies are

scrubicius
Wed Jun 03 20 07:26pm
Rating: 2

What is more fascinating is how people get upset with the actions of courtesy. This actually shows how people really think.

I do have to mention that I have been living abroad for while now and Trust me we have some serious problems for 2020 in the USA.

Back to the topic
For a international and multi cultural company I do imagine this came from Nintendo’s will.

haku_firestone
Thu Jun 04 20 04:54am
Rating: 1

I highly doubt that Nintendo was "pressured" into making this statement.

I'm glad to know that Nintendo publically denounces the problems and injustices leading and relating to George Floyd's death.

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