“For now, that’s what we’ve announced (for Wii U). Yes. And there are many thousands of people who are thrilled with the announcement of what is our our currently largest brand (Monster Hunter) coming to Nintendo’s existing portable and new console platform. The significance of that should not be underestimated.” - Christian Svensson
That's a pretty powerful statement. Bringing your biggest brand to Nintendo's newest console really does speak volumes.
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Not a port. Double the content of tri. Will feature online support unlike tri G. Lastly we get to choose the HD online version, the 3D handheld version, or both. Most MH fans are pretty pleased.
how about the fact that its basically just a port of a wii game. Came out on the wii...then was announced on 3ds...now for the wiiu
the same game gets recycled and put on two more systems. Its lazy.
which is why he quickly locked the thread so nobody could challenge his statement.
hopefully they have other stuff in the works that they are not willing to share just yet. But if this is all they have. Poor poor effort. Seems they learned nothing from the last generation. And taking the exact same approach. Porting over one of their larger titles from the previous generation and hoping that fools nintendo into thinking they are actually supporting while they take their wait and see approach.
To be fair 3G/3U has a good amount of content added to it, that was not present in the original game.
Also MH4 is headed to 3DS sometime in 2013.
With this game launching alongside Wii U in Japan, it will tell Capcom if anyone wants 3rd party support.
I mean Wii owners didn't express enough interest in their other major franchises last gen...
I don't understand why Monster Hunter finally coming in HD + added content is not enough for you?
When did gamers quit caring about HD?
its still a port. An enhanced port or not. still a port.
double the content of tri? in other words. Half of this game's content pulled straight from Tri.
well this is why nintendo fans get crapped on by these companies. cause they're too pleased with the absolute bare minimum.
You do realize there was a Monster Hunter 1 and Monster Hunter 1G, and a Monster Hunter 2 and Monster 2G for PS2?
The PSP games followed this route as well.
Capcom has done this with every entry in the series.
So yeah it has nothing to do with Nintendo fans, but Capcom being Capcom.
@motherbra1n
It's all Capcom knows how to do. They make a game series only so that they can one day destroy it. Just ask Mega Man.
now now i thought that was lazy too
but let's not forget monster hunter tri wii is the best selling third party games on any home system (except for ff13) , the second best , way over mgs or one piece , the only other game to sell a million in japan . AND that was with subscription .
So going purely by numbers , capcom did bring their biggest (japanese) game for the wii u , and that shocked me . Especially since i see it as a way to say , that mh4 is still coming to the 3ds (well that's obvious) and maybe a companion game ONLINE enable will come to wii u .
if nintendo could manage to have the multiplatform of ff, mgs and one piece , that's going to change things even more
BUT bottomline except CapcoMonster hunter , nothing, no one at capcom cares remotely about the nintendo platforms despite the numbers , despite the very low numbers of the wii u . They sabotaged their own great shooter , but ok it's a great game . Now the thing we were expecting is resident evil , lost planet and the versus fighting (i would prefer of the marvel variety) . They failed to deliver on all those count , so from a non japanese point of view , they pretty much did nothing at all for the wii u , and won't follow through their pretty good 3ds lineup. So that's bad .
Hopefully , nintendo could pull a BAYONNETTA (lol) and get some support out of nowhere for the period after march 2013. They could not get nfs despite that having a vita version so i don't really expect it but with all those titles and the sweet revelation of bayonetta 2 i hope the industry is a tad bit clearer for some of those "hardcore" gamers and their stances . They are just crazy
@internet
Nintendo had a strong hand in securing Monster Hunter 3G and 4.
It is no big secret that Nintendo sweetened the pot for Capcom to get the series as an exclusive!
because a game simply being hd means nothing. its about the games. It being a new console, hd is a given. its not a luxury anymore. its standard.
yay..more weapons and monsters and stages? still the same game
first off. No it does not tell capcom if anyone wants 3rd party support. Its an enhanced port of a game from a previous generation. To most gamers, those arent considered killer apps. It being a port alone, could cause it to not sell as well as Monster hunter normally will.
secondly, even if it was an indicator. What did capcom do when the RE4 port sold incredibly well? Did that get the wii an actual RE installment? did we get resident evil 5?
nope..we got spinoff lightgun type games.
thirdly. Companies must support systems with major franchises from jump. Which wasnt done on the wii. everyone took the wait and see approach.
so what happens is that people who are interested in these franchises dont pick up a wii because they dont see their beloved franchises on there, and therefore overlook the wii from then on, because they dont see it as platform that offer the experiences they are looking for.
thats what happened with the wii. and then when the proper content did come. it was too late cause the system was already written off.
also, there are also examples of major franchises performing pretty well. from what i understand the COD titles did pretty well.
also, there are instances when major franchises werent given proper development. like dead rising. (shoehorned into the RE4 engine) , DEAD SPACE (light gun game), soul calibur (odd beatem up)
either way. The wii market passed all of capcom's little 'TEST" titles...and got nothing in return. what makes you so sure this wont be the case with the wiiu......as it looks now....lookin a lot like early support for the wii
I really want Remember Me on Wii U, Capcom I will be very mad if you don't bring it.
Not a port. Double the content of tri. Will feature online support unlike tri G. Lastly we get to choose the HD online version, the 3D handheld version, or both. Most MH fans are pretty pleased.[/quote]
its still a port. An enhanced port or not. still a port.
double the content of tri? in other words. Half of this game's content pulled straight from Tri.
well this is why nintendo fans get crapped on by these companies. cause they're too pleased with the absolute bare minimum.[/quote]
You do realize there was a Monster Hunter 1 and Monster Hunter 1G, and a Monster Hunter 2 and Monster 2G for PS2?
The PSP games followed this route as well.
Capcom has done this with every entry in the series.
So yeah it has nothing to do with Nintendo fans, but Capcom being Capcom.[/quote]
yeah. except all those were either on the same system. or on similar hardware. This game originated on the wii. The wiiu is leaps and bounds above the wii. There just isnt a good excuse for this.
and this capcom being capcom is supposed to excuse this sort of thing? also, if you look at capcom's support with nintendo consoles period over the last couple generations, there is definitely a Nintendo "thing" with capcom.
I'm super happy to be able to have the chance to play it. I would of bought a Vita, just for Monster Hunter, this is just cementing my Wii U purchase even further.
@M1
yes just like every street fighter has 50 billion versions of the exact same game with very very minor alterations, it's called milking
@Trutrutru
Capcom future support depends on how well 3G/3U sells in Japan and most likely the West.
Capcom also gave us the two RE on rail games (not light gun games) to "test" the market to see if it could support 3rd party games.
Capcom gave Okami (which sold as bad as the PS2 version)
Capcom gave us Zack and Wiki
Capcom gave us TvC
Capcom gave us Dead Rising as a "test" game to see if the RE games sales were a fluke or the real deal.
Capcom gave us Monster Hunter Tri (best selling Monster Hunter console to date).
Capcom also gave us RE0-3 on Wii (Though no one bought them)
Also Dead Space: Extraction on Wii was a "Test" game from EA to determine whether or not they could sell their games on Wii.
Also Capcom released plenty of good games on GC:
*Mega Man X collectoin
*Mega Man anniversary collection
*Mega Man RPG
*Viewtiful Joe
*Viewtiful Joe 2
*P.N. 03
*Resident Evil 0
*Resident Evil 1
*Resident Evil 2
*Resident Evil 3
*Resident Evil 4
*Auto Modellista
*Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO
*Disney's Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse (published by Nintendo with the under license by Capcom)
*Disney's Hide and Sneak
*Gotcha Force
*killer7
*Mega Man Network Transmission
*Resident Evil Code: Veronica X
*Viewtiful Joe: Red Hot Rumble
Many of these games bombed hard, especially Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe games.
So yeah there is no Nintendo thing here.
One last note:
Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD ver. was released on PS3 a remake of the PSP game by the same name.
@ motherbra1n
Actually only SNES saw 12 versions of SFII each having more content than the next.
SF3 saw 3 console versions
SFIV saw 3 console versions
So no it is not milking if the new versions have tons of content over the previous versions.
It is no different than DLC.
Obviously you need to learn what milking is and what blind Capcom hate is.
if the WiiU came out last year, we would be getting all the same games as the other systems right now. if in 6 months or a year games are still releasing on Xbox and PS3 without a WiiU version then i would be pissed.
also, considering how secretive Nintendo was leading up to Thursday, i would imagine there are more games that are planned for WiiU but not yet listed. Likely Remember Me being one of them.
Capcom future support depends on how well 3G/3U sells in Japan and most likely the West.
says who? Past evidence suggests this is no guarantee that a port of a title from a previous generation doing well means real support from capcom.
Capcom also gave us the two RE on rail games (not light gun games) to "test" the market to see if it could support 3rd party games.
no. starfox is an on rails game. Sin and punishment is as well. You have freedom of movement regardless of you being moved through the stage as if on a rail.
RE chronicles are far more basic. They are pretty much just lightgun games. Not only that, they are spinoff titles. Spinnoffs that sold well i may add. Did these "test" games result in another actual RE game?
nope
Capcom gave Okami (which sold as bad as the PS2 version)
as nice of a game as that is. Its a port.
Capcom gave us Zack and Wiki
a decidedly shallow game in terms of scope and production. (not gameplay). It also looked like a kiddy game, so despite being considered a good game, probably scared a lot of people away.
Capcom gave us TvC
one of the few efforts i applaud Capcom for.
Capcom gave us Dead Rising as a "test" game to see if the RE games sales were a fluke or the real deal.
too bad it was a terrible game. Shoehorned a next gen title into an engine built for the previous generation. The market should not be expected to support bad games just because some may consider it a test title.
Capcom gave us Monster Hunter Tri (best selling Monster Hunter console to date).
another title i can genuinely applaud capcom for bringing to the wii.
Capcom also gave us RE0-3 on Wii (Though no one bought them)
another port of a game from a previous generation....seems we get everything RE on wii except a legitimate installment in the series
Also Dead Space: Extraction on Wii was a "Test" game from EA to determine whether or not they could sell their games on Wii.
after a couple years EA finally entertains the idea of bringing some of their bigger titles to wii. Except their test game is a lightgun game. Although a bit more ambitious than the chronicle series. Its still not a legitimate entry in that series.
how do you test a market for core games, without ever really providing legitimate core games???? This style of game is not what the core hunger for. So when they dont do so well, they dont say anything about the potential for the market.
this is also a case of being a little too late on top of all that.
Also Capcom released plenty of good games on GC:
*Mega Man X collectoin
*Mega Man anniversary collection
collection of ports....nice games...hardly anything to rave about
*Mega Man RPG
ok good...nice multiplatform title
*Viewtiful Joe
*Viewtiful Joe 2
good games....solid games
*P.N. 03
not a fan....looked pretty though
*Resident Evil 0
original title for the gamecube...example of good support in this case
*Resident Evil 1
*Resident Evil 2
*Resident Evil 3
remakes
*Resident Evil 4
*Auto Modellista
meh
*Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO
good game
*Disney's Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse (published by Nintendo with the under license by Capcom)
*Disney's Hide and Sneak
meh
*Gotcha Force
very good game
*killer7
not a fan...but decent effort
*Mega Man Network Transmission
meh
*Resident Evil Code: Veronica X
port
*Viewtiful Joe: Red Hot Rumble
meh
Many of these games bombed hard, especially Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe games.
resident evil 4 did not bomb hard...where you getting that from? viewtiful joe did
So yeah there is no Nintendo thing here.
except your your just looking at half the equation(less than that even considering you arent at all talking about the wii). When you look at the support the PS2 and even the xbox to a lesser extent, there are plenty of titles that just did not make their way over to a nintendo console. PS2 had way more support than nintendo had. There is no arguing that. That happened with both the gamecube and wii generation....oh...n64 as well...so yeah....there is a nintendo thing here.
One last note:
Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD ver. was released on PS3 a remake of the PSP game by the same name.
again....this is suppose to excuse this type of support. Im not saying capcom isnt known for its rehashes....we all know this to be true...there is no denying that.....but just cause thats the case...doesnt mean there hasnt been a lack in nintendo support or that there hasnt been a nintendo "thing"
Having monster hunter this early means 360 2 and ps4 have absolutely no chance in catching them over there now. They also have dragon quest. What happened to the people who said third parties would leave wii u the second those systems come out? BS THAT IS! No major japanese publisher in their right mind will ignore wii u next generation.
I'm guessing that theory came from neogaf?????
There is some third party support (namco, tecmo, platinum), but besides those there is little support from capcom (a 3DS port), square (and they already announced the audience is not there for their real FF games), none from konami. The major japanese studios want the hardcore western market, they will support the other consoles.
@ccfanboy dragon quest is square enix
really the companies to be looking for here is Platinum Games (confirmed supporter of Wii U) and Comcept as they were founded by the people that made Capcom great (Kamiya and Inafune) Capcom isn't what they used to be and really the only thing going for them that i actually care about IS Street fighter and Darkstalkers.
Not really. If you take a look last gen the japanese support flooded ps2 and gamecube. Sure gamecube support wasn't exactly high on stellar but neither was xbox. In fact I think you'll find that microsoft was in the worst situation last time. JRPGs tend to sell better on playstation and nintendo so why would they completely leave wii u? Its really western support which nintendo tend to lack. Thats probably why they secured monster hunter. Even if it is a remake/port (dunno which) it sells like hot cakes in japan. The 3ds and vita prove that. I think nintendo are ensuring because they can't entirely trust western developers and japanese support is generally good, they get mainly good support from there. I believe nintendo's relevance in japan compared to microsoft's will make sure they get stuff like resident evil, final fantasy, tales etc.
@CCFanboy
If MH Portable 3rd HD is any indication, a simple port is not going to do wonders.
Nintendo can't rely on Western support, but it's utterly foolish to assume that they can rely on Japanese support either. Many (big) Japanese publishers have been desperately trying to make it big in the Western markets, most notably Capcom and Square-Enix (via Eidos). These are the ones that have made big investments for next-gen, e.g. their new engines (see Konami and Square-Enix) and Konami has already made it clear what they think of Wii U, or rather Kojima has, which is synonymously these days.
All that's left are niche developers that would probably be better off developing for PSP/3DS/Vita.
Nah man I'm not saying that they would rely on support from japan. I'm saying that for those who want third party support ensuring they keep what they can is a good way of keeping those people entertained while they make their games. At least just to keep people interested in the system.
Like its just pointing out that if you have concerns for third party support you needn't do. Nintendo can rely on their own stuff. New mario 2 just broke the record of selling faster then the original in the uk. Nintendo's games are big enough to keep them alive.
I want to believe Iwata, unless is crazier than I thought, would love to see the WiiU to become a much more successful console than wii was. Having tons of sales of some first party games and hardware is one thing, but being a good platform for third parties is also important. Third parties thrived on ps360, that is a LOT of money and sales that nintendo did not get and surely would have loved to have a share of that. Nintendo does need third parties, they cant releasee AAA first party games every three months. It is in their best interest to get as many of those big games as they can, also demostrated by the many colaborations they are making.
Iwata seems like a much nicer person than the other guy who ran things there. Unlike him Iwata admitted third party support is important. If he says they are making sure it gets supported I believe him. Of course he can't promise it will last but who can? Wii u might get given the short end of the stick like gamecube but its very unlikely to be given the finger.
It's great news for Japan, but... Everywhere else in the world Monster Hunter isn't that special. Personally I am not a fan... so I'm hoping that they eventually port RE6 to the Wii U. Still in Japan this is big stuff.
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