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Anonymous third-party Wii U developer struggles with software creation

Coming from Eurogamer...

One developer working on a key AAA franchise port told us anonymously that the Nintendo toolchain is "fighting us every step of the way", suggesting that plenty of work still needs to be done in getting development workflow up to scratch.

This is pretty much the first time we've heard anything like this from a third party dev. Now that the system is out, I'm guessing we'll be hearing the more ugly comments from devs. They'll remain anonymous, of course!

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19 Nov 2012 17:57

I think other than this guy whining the real news is about the "key AAA" franchise port.
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19 Nov 2012 18:00

nintendo is f'n screwed. when the ps4 and next xbox launch all this port crap is going to disappear. cant expect third parties to even try to put out dedicated properties for it either, cause of what they didnt do on the original wii.
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19 Nov 2012 18:01

rahnyc4 wrote:nintendo is f'n screwed. when the ps4 and next xbox launch all this port crap is going to disappear. cant expect third parties to even try to put out dedicated properties for it either, cause of what they didnt do on the original wii.

thank you Nostradamus :roll:
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19 Nov 2012 18:02

rahnyc4 wrote:nintendo is f'n screwed. when the ps4 and next xbox launch all this port crap is going to disappear. cant expect third parties to even try to put out dedicated properties for it either, cause of what they didnt do on the original wii.


Developers/Publishers are dropping left and right. Do you honestly think that all of a sudden when the new PS and XBOX consoles release that any of the current consoles are doing to be dropped?

I bet you see the hardware lives of the 360 and PS3 extended much like the PS2.
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19 Nov 2012 18:03

Eurogamer's at it again
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19 Nov 2012 18:15

Bet it's the SuperMeatBoy developer wanting more spotlight so 'insert BS here'.
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19 Nov 2012 18:17

Wii U uses kiddy hardware just like Wii and GC?

I mean if Nintendo would use "hardcore" hardware in their system, it would make making a "hardcore" game easier.
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19 Nov 2012 18:22

M1 wrote:Wii U uses kiddy hardware just like Wii and GC?

I mean if Nintendo would use "hardcore" hardware in their system, it would make making a "hardcore" game easier.


Nintendo does not care about appeasing the 'hardcore' crowd.
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19 Nov 2012 18:23

@M1 Gamecube uses kiddie hardware?
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19 Nov 2012 18:25

LegendofSantiago wrote:@M1 Gamecube uses kiddie hardware?


It didn't win the last generation, so yes, it apparently does.
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19 Nov 2012 18:53

@jlatimer11 but the wii won this generation, so that is hardcore hardware?
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19 Nov 2012 19:25

Really guys? Kiddy? Hardcore?

Obviously devs will have issues as it is a new platform. If there was an extreme issue with the hardware then we would see a much bigger outcry. I don't see the point of this dev saying this as I'm sure they will get through it some how.
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19 Nov 2012 19:27

LegendofSantiago wrote:@M1 Gamecube uses kiddie hardware?

It is a long running joke about the Gamecube that stems from RE4 unveiling.

Many gamers thought it was impossible for Gamecube to run game with that graphic style due to the hardware being built for games like Windwaker and Mario1
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19 Nov 2012 19:39

LegendofSantiago wrote:@jlatimer11 but the wii won this generation, so that is hardcore hardware?


I was being sarcastic.... probably should have noted it.
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19 Nov 2012 19:51

@jlatimer11 what!? You weren't serious!? Next thing you'll tell me is that M1 actually believes all the things he says!
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19 Nov 2012 19:53

LegendofSantiago wrote:@jlatimer11 what!? You weren't serious!? Next thing you'll tell me is that M1 actually believes all the things he says!


Too much sarcasm! Head going to explode!
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19 Nov 2012 19:56

so... don't just have a WiiU this generation? Gotcha.
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19 Nov 2012 19:57

Please, people, stop feeding the trolls!
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19 Nov 2012 20:01

Chased wrote:Please, people, stop feeding the trolls!

His name is Shaanyboi.
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19 Nov 2012 20:14

M1 wrote:
Chased wrote:Please, people, stop feeding the trolls!

His name is Shaanyboi.


You say this...
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19 Nov 2012 20:28

Eurogamer's one of the biggest anti Nintendo websites I've ever seen.. Been reading and visiting the website for years but those guys are among the biggest Nintendo haters I've ever seen.PERIOD!
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19 Nov 2012 20:35

This just in = Not all developers are created equal. Some who have been praising the Wii U hardware and it's ease of development, are probably (just a hunch) better at making games than certain others. That doesn't mean every dev is going to feel that way, but my bet is that the better development teams will get the most out of the hardware, and have the easiest time doing so. What a concept.
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19 Nov 2012 21:21

If nobody read the whole article, he says it will get better over time.
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20 Nov 2012 04:48

I'd need to know what developer it is and what game they are working on. The term "AAA title" is used to loosely these days. Really, unless your game is going to sell 10 million+ copies or averages about 95% or higher in reviews, I don't think a game should be consider a "AAA title." That would mean there are 2-6 "AAA titles" per year.
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rahnyc4 wrote:nintendo is f'n screwed. when the ps4 and next xbox launch all this port crap is going to disappear. cant expect third parties to even try to put out dedicated properties for it either, cause of what they didnt do on the original wii.

thank you Nostradamus :roll:

History backs him up. It's called the GameCube and the Wii and heck, even the N64 has troubles (at least compared to the PS1). Still, it is way early to jump to conclusions. So far, things look better than either console
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20 Nov 2012 14:47

TopCat wrote:Eurogamer's one of the biggest anti Nintendo websites I've ever seen.. Been reading and visiting the website for years but those guys are among the biggest Nintendo haters I've ever seen.PERIOD!

I disagree. They're generally very positive about Nintendo games. A lot of the recent major Nintendo releases have been getting 8s and 9s from them. A quick glance shows that they're often above the average Metacritic score as well. Nintendo also gets a decent amount of exposure as well, since the "Recently Published" front page sidebar displays Nintendo news and reviews instead of burying them like some other sites do.

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