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Nintendo Force - Issue #1 now available



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11 Jan 2013 16:33

RMC, I am buying it because of you. You are a great guy and you got balls.....I like risk takers and I am going to support you. Hopefully, you can create some sort of subscription service as you get economies of scale. Looking forward to reading it.
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11 Jan 2013 16:51

Yeah 18 bucks is a bit pricey but for the first issue I'll take that hit, and as it has no ads and the price is most likely Magcloud's doing I'm ok with it. I can't wait for the subscription offer, I wonder if you all will do like the old nintendo power used to do with guides in the like, (Just kidding) I hope to see More of this soon.
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11 Jan 2013 17:11

Bought the Print/Digital this time. I'm hopeful that a better option will come through for the second issue. There's no way I can spend this type of money for multiple issues, but for the inaugural entry I splurged a little. BTW, I read the pdf cover to cover and loved everything! You guys did a really great job on the magazine RMC!!
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11 Jan 2013 17:39

BaNGeR wrote:Yes, we did. Unfortunately, reading the logistics behind on-demand physical printing doesn't magically add $18 to our bank accounts. It's noble of them to be doing this non-profit for charity, but I'm sure many more people who were excited about this wouldn't mind wading through a couple of ad pages if it meant lowering the price of the magazine. You can argue all you want the difference between $4 and $18, or how great your high-paying job is, but for many people in this economy, specifically the audience this magazine is geared towards, it's tough enough dropping $50-60 on new game releases that may provide 30-40 hours of entertainment, so asking a 1-year subscription price for 1 issue of something like this is a tough pill to swallow; and the digital-only version sort of defeats the novelty of this venture in the first place.

Is it a tough situation? Yes. Does it perhaps highlight one of the issues Nintendo Power was facing with their magazine? Yes. Should we feel guilty that we just can't budget $18 for one issue of a magazine and now CorusFace is mad at us? Absolutely not.

That being said, mad props to the huge collaborative effort put into this labor of love. I'm sure the people involved will figure out a solution that makes everyone happy. It's not like they are trying to sell us $100 32 gb memory cards just because they can.


wow. douchebag much? i'm not mad at people for not being able to "budget $18 for one issue of a magazine". i don't give a crap whether you buy it or not, to each his own. but i felt too many people saw the price and immediately began asking questions and dismissing the magazine right away, questions that could have been fully answered had they bothered to click on the facebook link that rawmeats so kindly offered within the words "details here". everything i provided in quotes was taken directly from that linked page, so any beef you have with anything i put in my post is with the magazine creators, not me. it was their words! i only added the coupon code to give people who wanted to buy the magazine but were a little hesitant some potential relief. no one had mentioned it before i started writing that post. and finally, where do you get off talking like you know me? i never mentioned anything about my job or if i was even going to buy the magazine in the first place. the way you took my post so personally has me truly bewildered; i must have struck a nerve somewhere. regardless, you got a response from me explaining myself. so i guess you did it. you win!
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11 Jan 2013 17:45

I bought the print and the digital! Reading the digital issue, and man, this is fantastic! I notice all these little touches that resemble Nintendo Power. Truly amazing.

I can't wait for my print copy to arrive!
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11 Jan 2013 17:47

18 bucks?

Yeah, no. Sorry, but the last time I even payed something even CLOSE to that for a single issue was when Newtype Magazine was published in the states.

I wanna support this magazine, but 18 bucks is well beyond anything I'd want to spend for a magazine. 5 bucks for digital is just as steep when you realize most digital magazines go for 1-2 bucks (though granted, its not TOO steep). If the dedicated fans of the site want to throw in the cash to help, that's awesome. But I much prefer to think that you guys keep the spirit of Nintendo Power alive through this site like I said before you guys even announced this ;)

Oh, and for the record, I /did/ read the explainations as to why it's priced so steep. Fair enough...... but it's still not going to change the situation on my choice. 18 is still 18 when its all said and done.
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11 Jan 2013 17:54

I'm too cheap to buy it at that price. Sorry RMC.
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11 Jan 2013 17:55

Hahaha, oh my God. What a ridiculous price.
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11 Jan 2013 17:56

As someone who is working on a local zine, I can understand how much pricing can become an issue for the first... Well, issue LOL. I won't get paid until next week, but when I do, I'll buy the issue :3
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11 Jan 2013 18:04

Bought it because I like the idea and love many of the contributors, but I really can't afford another issue at a similar price. I have a feeling this is going to die pretty quickly because I'm normally much more willing than most to spend a lot of cash on something like this, but $21 with shipping is way too high.
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11 Jan 2013 18:10

Phant0mG4m3r wrote:You have my support. Unfortunately, most gamer's today are all talk.


THIS.

Honestly though, while the $18 seems like a high price you can save some money with the coupon code floating around. Anyone who has written it off already or just declares it too expensive without even looking at it is missing out. The parts of the first issue I've read (I am holding off reading the whole thing until the physical version comes in the mail) are just brilliant. It is so reminiscent of NP while at the same time having its own flair that I feel like my 13 year old self thumbing through Nintendo's latest coverage of Ultra 64! Well done!
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11 Jan 2013 18:19

Phant0mG4m3r wrote:You have my support. Unfortunately, most gamer's today are all talk.


Has nothing to do with being "all talk". Nobody expected it to be $20 for a single issue. People were willing to support it at a reasonable price.

Excluding taxes or shipping (forget if there is any), it comes to about $216 or so (USD). That's a lot of money for old news that you can just find online and the digital copy defeats the whole point of why the magazine even exists.

It's not "all talk". They still want to support it, but they're not supporting it until it's cheaper. It's simply not worth it aside from the charity aspect.

It's unfortunate because I was super pumped for this. Hopefully they will find a better solution and I can backorder.
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11 Jan 2013 18:24

I was exited and ready to buy the first copy and I stopped after looking at the price. Sorry but that is way too much. If the price doesn't drop, I see a bleak future for this =/
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11 Jan 2013 18:35

I'll buy one when it gets to a lower price.
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11 Jan 2013 18:38

I went ahead and bit the bullet, and I'm enjoying the digital so far. At the very least, if its stays at this price, I'll pick up the digital issues. I only decided to get the physical because it's the first issue, but I really, really can't support this if it stays at that price, despite how much I want to. I don't have a job any more, so my family is down to one income. Can't spare $20 a month for a magazine, even if it is wonderful.
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11 Jan 2013 18:55

I'd like to thank you all for the feedback.

I can completely understand your feelings on the price, and would like to assure you that it's not ideal for us either at this point. I want you all to know that NOBODY on the project is taking any kind of cut, and we'll be donating ALL the proceeds to charity. If you can't justify spending this amount on a magazine then that's completely understandable, but please do not feel this price is at all the result of us wanting to make some money from this project.

In terms of which charity the proceeds are going to, we are already decided on that. However, as we want to make sure the charity are alright with us telling everyone right off the bat (we do not want said charity to get ANY impression we are using their name to push our product), until we receive a response we cannot make a formal announcement on that.

Finally, we fully intend to work towards lowering the price as much as possible. Again, as we are not taking any money from this project, it benefits ourselves just as much as our readers to keep the price as low as possible. What I WOULD say is to all the commenters (and not specifically on here, but all over the internet) gawking at the price and insisting there are better methods to print these magazines...please, get in touch and tell us what you think they are! That isn't me being confrontational, we are genuinely interested to hear of any viable alternative printing services! Regardless, rest assured we do not intend on this price going forward, and subscriptions will be ready to go before our second issue. I hope that answers a few questions!
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11 Jan 2013 19:10

Picking up my copy. Hope to see a subscription for digital issues at some point in the future. :)
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11 Jan 2013 19:51

For the people that like what they get, hopefully you guys can offer a subscription. Not necessarily for savings, but it's more convenient.
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11 Jan 2013 19:51

BaNGeR wrote:
CorusFace wrote:did anyone actually read the facebook page's explanation of why they did things the way they did?


Yes, we did. Unfortunately, reading the logistics behind on-demand physical printing doesn't magically add $18 to our bank accounts. It's noble of them to be doing this non-profit for charity, but I'm sure many more people who were excited about this wouldn't mind wading through a couple of ad pages if it meant lowering the price of the magazine. You can argue all you want the difference between $4 and $18, or how great your high-paying job is, but for many people in this economy, specifically the audience this magazine is geared towards, it's tough enough dropping $50-60 on new game releases that may provide 30-40 hours of entertainment, so asking a 1-year subscription price for 1 issue of something like this is a tough pill to swallow; and the digital-only version sort of defeats the novelty of this venture in the first place.

Is it a tough situation? Yes. Does it perhaps highlight one of the issues Nintendo Power was facing with their magazine? Yes. Should we feel guilty that we just can't budget $18 for one issue of a magazine and now CorusFace is mad at us? Absolutely not.

That being said, mad props to the huge collaborative effort put into this labor of love. I'm sure the people involved will figure out a solution that makes everyone happy. It's not like they are trying to sell us $100 32 gb memory cards just because they can.


I don't see where CorusFace was mad, in fact I'm glad he quoted the bit about NFM donating the proceeds to charity. I fully support this and I had no idea they were doing it until he posted it. I will be getting this magazine either in digital/physical format and put money where my mouth is.

EDIT: Purchased! Glad I can help support the cause.
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11 Jan 2013 23:18

It should be noted that no one is being asked to pay $18 a month, given that it's a bi-monthly magazine (just like NP's old days!). If you want to buy two of each issue, no one here will stop you, but that was never the intent.

Naturally, that breaks it down to about $9 month.

Furthermore, there is the $5 digital version which, if I'm not mistaken, is the better purchase if you're interested in donating to charity, as I believe the whole of that figure goes to the cause, whereas the printed version has expenses and narrower margins.
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11 Jan 2013 23:43

I bought one; $ goes to charity and I want to support this effort. $18 is quite pricey, though; I'm looking forward to a subscription method which I'm hoping lowers the price per issue; Nintendo Power came to about $1.75 an issue; for Nintendo Force I'm hoping for $5 an issue at the most ($30 a year for 6 issues).

Disappointing it's bi-monthly but it was quite expected; I just need my monthly Nintendo magazine fix :)
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12 Jan 2013 19:17

I bought the print/ digital version since it is the first issue but the $21 with shipping is too high to keep buying print. I do intend to continue buying the digital version. Although I think its great that proceeds are going to charity I really don't think that is nesessary. I mean you guys are doing a great job with the magazine and providing a service that a lot of people want why not get paid for your effort? Personally I would feel just as good buying the magazine knowing you guys are benefiting as I do knowing its going to charity.
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13 Jan 2013 04:33

:(. I am still looking forward to picking this up. Like many people said price is an issue. I was down for spending $30-40 on an annual subscription but $18/14 on one issue may be a bit to much for me at the moment. I just renewed my gamestop powered up thing for $15 which essentially gives me game informer for a year. I feel like I should save some money right now.(currently paying for school books/ rebuilding my stolen gamecube collection) If I have $20 laying around in a week or two might get the digital+physical copy. I can afford to pick up a digital only copy now but I feel that defeats the purpose of a magazine.
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13 Jan 2013 10:06

I caved and bought it. Downloading the digital issue right now!
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14 Jan 2013 06:37

17 bucks - discount, divide by 2 (bi-monthly issue), and that's less than 7 bucks per month-issue, with a digital copy thrown in.

for a fan-made labor of love that serves a now vacant niche with no ads, that sounds totally reasonable to me.

gaming is a luxury no matter how you look at it, and a magazine about it is a luxury on top of that. it's understandable if people can't afford two levels of luxury items, but a) it doesn't break down to a high price, and b) such a magazine obviously isn't for everyone anyway, regardless of price.

if 7 bucks a month for two copies of a gaming magazine targeted to you is too much, there's always the immediate satisfaction and convenience of the digital version. that's 2 and a half bucks per month.

i'm personally curious about the printing details (paper weight, type of press, any kind of finishes, etc.); this could be a very high-end quality piece, compared to some of the cheap options typical of many magazines.

nice work guys. for a first issue, it's pretty slick, and is only likely to get better with time.

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