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Super Mario Bros. Z creator faces Patreon trouble after a Nintendo DMCA claim

For those unfamiliar with the current situation, Alvin Earthworm is the creator and animator of a popular online series known as Super Mario Bros. Z. He opened a Patreon account, which received a large amount of supporters. However, since Super Mario Bros. Z contained heavy amounts of Nintendo-related content, the Patreon page was terminated as a result of a DMCA claim from Nintendo themselves.

Alvin Earthworm has now decided to create a secondary Patreon page. This time, his Patreon page was simply made for the idea of him earning money for animations in general, as opposed to being just for Super Mario Bros. Z. The plan is to hopefully avoid copyright and manage to continue creating animations with the support of his fanbase.

If you'd like to check out his new Patreon page, then please click here!

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moldyclay
Tue Feb 16 16 01:24pm
Rating: 3

"I am going to ask for money to fund an animation using licensed characters I don't have the license for".

No surprise here.

"Oh but it is fan art, and donations".

No.

Oh wow. It's not even Throwback Thursday!

I had no idea he was still around and even thinking of working on Super Marios Bros Z again. IIRC, by the end of the original run on YouTube, it just seemed to be too much work, too much pressure for him.

Regardless, I wish Alvin luck on future projects. Smile

He's remaking it. The first episode went up awhile ago.

pc
Tue Feb 16 16 09:38am
Rating: 1

I love SMBZ and have been a fan since it first premiered years ago, but Alvin should have known before even creating that Patreon that getting paid thousands of dollars to use copyrighted characters wasn't going to fly for very long.

At least he found a way around it. Honestly, while I'm sure he loves working on SMBZ, I don't think he would bother redoing the series if he wasn't receiving monetary compensation for it.

csp
Tue Feb 16 16 11:19am
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I watched the episode...didn't fancy it. The models are too pixelated, most of the animation is borrowed off their respective games (mostly the RPGs), the background feels out of place and the "special effects" are not consistent with the rest of the package. There is no structure on the battles at all, it seems characters are free to use whatever powerup they want whenever they want. So this is supposed to be mainly humorous...I did not find it funny either.

raising money for this using other company's IPs was literally asking for trouble though.

Watching only one episode will do that to you.

the idea of the first episode is to make the audience reach a conclusion whether they like it or not.

and I didn't like it by a long shot.

Well, them's the breaks.

lewdparty
Tue Feb 16 16 11:33am
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So judging by the dislikes I'm guessing big bully Nintendo is the bad guy here.

jayvir
Tue Feb 16 16 12:58pm
Rating: 1

I dislike it simply because I'm sick of people blaming Nintendo when people are just using their characters and properties and making money off of it. EVERY story that pops up regarding stuff like that follows the same path where people criticize Nintendo and blah blah blah, free advertising, blah blah blah...

This is the exact same situation with that Star Fox fan cartoon that opened a Patreon, only Nintendo issued a cease and desist on that entire project.

I actually mentioned how Nintendo's dealing with Patreons for fan works as a warning to another animator who put up a promising teaser for a Sonic fan cartoon and started a Patreon as well. Hopefully Sega's not as trigger happy with cases like this.

er. But Nintendo isn't being trigger happy here.

This seems a lot...worse than I remember... I guess 10 or so years really changes things... The Sonic series getting worse and worse didn't help either.

moldyclay
Tue Feb 16 16 01:24pm
Rating: 3

"I am going to ask for money to fund an animation using licensed characters I don't have the license for".

No surprise here.

"Oh but it is fan art, and donations".

No.

Pretty much these.

I mean, this happens all the time, yet people are surprised?
I'm all for content creators making some dosh for their efforts, but come on, you need to expect these things, and be prepared for the repercussions

Well the odd thing is, plenty of people draw fan art of copyrighted characters and sell posters of them... and I'm pretty sure they don't get DMCA'd and I doubt the original company gets compensation. I realize it's easy to spot something when it begins now, then something that started years ago, but I'm curious as why plenty of other things haven't been shut down.

On another note, in Nintendo's survey I think they mentioned something about a video app, and what would be great (rather than Treehouse let's plays) would be original content either by them, or promoting other people making Nintendo related content. They even brought up promoting your content multiple times and their YT partnership thing indicates they want people to make Nintendo content, so why not try to foster it? In this case if his videos don't have ads they can't make money from it, but maybe assemble someone to find creators to make Nintendo content, or promote their Nintendo related videos within their app.

They sort of tried it with the 3DS, but no one really opened whatever random app it was to watch those videos... and it was only four at a time. An actual smartphone app with categories for trailers, and Treehouse stuff, and original content could work much better. Especially if they want to break into the smartphone business with games, a Nintendo Video app would be a good addition.

Well the odd thing is, plenty of people draw fan art of copyrighted characters and sell posters of them... and I'm pretty sure they don't get DMCA'd and I doubt the original company gets compensation. I realize it's easy to spot something when it begins now, then something that started years ago, but I'm curious as why plenty of other things haven't been shut down.
I think the main reason for this is that those posters don't generate enough attention and revenue to make Nintendo notice

I honestly never understood why prints & shirts really get a pass. I would say publicity, but I guess that doesn't work because the shirt sites are super public.

It is possible this is an issue because maybe Nintendo is actually going to make new cartoons. Dunno.

One would hope. I think it's just a publicity thing like you and someone else said. As in because something JUST started and got a lot of attention, they can nip it in the bud, but they don't bother with pre-existing stuff because then they'd have to go out of their way to issue takedowns for so many people/places that it's not worth wasting time on.

Here's hoping for a Smash Bros or Kid Icarus anime.

There is also the fact Nintendo is just being more aggressive with pushing their IPs now. In the past, they really didn't do anything and focused solely on their games.

Now they are getting more into everything, so they don't want the small competitors.

They can never get everyone, and I am sure there are loads of aspects of content copyrights that allow some stuff to slip through the cracks, and how people distribute stuff.

ridleysaria
Tue Feb 16 16 01:24pm
Rating: 1

Stuff like this seems fairly benign to a lot of people but Nintendo has an obligation to vigorously defend their intellectual property. Of course the difficulty of that is that they'll often look like bullies pushing around the little guy.

This guy is simply stupid, for thinking that it would get away with the money without Nintendo shutting down the project while he used its characters without having the right to it...

Seriously!!!

Sorry to say this but one of these days, these people will be sued for their actions, especially that it's coming from Patreon. Yeah their projects look cool but making it for money isn't cool. Nintendo did the right thing once again. Those people elsewhere will be butthurt like at YouTube with Star Fox animation incident.

I can't fathom how people think they can just use whatever characters they want in their own creations and try to make money off of it. Isn't it so clearly and obviously copyright infringement?

Guys like these are what make the Fine Brothers do what they did

Do Sega, Capcom, etc. really not care when other people fund projects using their characters without permission? I ask because some people have responded with that argument when someone tells them that Nintendo is within the right to shut down projects like these.

Feel free to answer my question, anyone.

I know that Capcom shut down a Kickstarter for a Ghouls and Ghosts fan game for the main consoles a while ago, and Sega got after folks for Shining Force stuff some time ago as well, so yes, some of them do the exact same thing

I see. Thanks for informing me.

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