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Former RARE dev says RARE IP returning to Nintendo with Smash Bros. Ultimate was 'significant, but inevitable'

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Nintendo fans lost their collective mind seeing Banjo and Kazooie officially revealed for Smash Bros. Ultimate. It was a move many dreamed of, but few thought could actually happen. Former RARE dev Chris Seavor knows it's important as well, and in an interview with with VideogamesChronicle, he reveals that he thought RARE's characters making their way back to Nintendo was inevitable.

“It is significant, very significant but it was also inevitable. You only have to look at the reaction to Banjo’s appearing in Smash to see that this was purely a fan driven thing, and fans are if nothing else a noisy and belligerent bunch. I mean, it’s an abbreviation of ‘Fanatic’ after all. Whether they’ll be as loud about the other IP’s including Conker is up for debate… I’d say not likely.”

What could the future hold for RARE's IP on Nintendo platforms? Now that we've had the Banja-Kazooie reveal, it makes you think anything is possible! Perhaps Conker has more of a shot than Seavor thinks. I'd like to hope so, at least.

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Even if it is Microsoft developing a new Xbox exclusive Banjo game and they’re using Smash as a strategy of getting the characters back in the limelight...who cares? They’ve made a lot of people happy by just letting Nintendo include them in Smash and they’ll get greater exposure for their characters before they unveil a new game (assuming that is the case, who knows). Even with Banjo in Smash I’m not assuming that any future game will come to Nintendo consoles and neither should anyone. It’d be really nice to see happen, and it’s not unprecedented of Microsoft to support Nintendo handhelds, but if it comes down to Microsoft looking out for advertising for their exclusive game it really shouldn’t bother anyone.

backup368
Fri Aug 16 19 06:30pm
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It's not a good idea then, & it's still not a good idea now. It's what Microsoft wanted all along, which was why the deal was "easy" to make. Whose to say that Microsoft isn't making a new BK game for their own console now they know there are Nintendo fans who'd want one? Nintendo fanboys sound so entitled thinking companies will do just anything they ask of them. Why not put Zelda, Mario, & Smash on XBOX then?

So, what you're saying is you want Master Chief in Smash.

Even if it is Microsoft developing a new Xbox exclusive Banjo game and they’re using Smash as a strategy of getting the characters back in the limelight...who cares? They’ve made a lot of people happy by just letting Nintendo include them in Smash and they’ll get greater exposure for their characters before they unveil a new game (assuming that is the case, who knows). Even with Banjo in Smash I’m not assuming that any future game will come to Nintendo consoles and neither should anyone. It’d be really nice to see happen, and it’s not unprecedented of Microsoft to support Nintendo handhelds, but if it comes down to Microsoft looking out for advertising for their exclusive game it really shouldn’t bother anyone.

Yeah I agree with this. Considering the reaction, if Microsoft *were* to develop a new Banjo Kazooie game, it's entirely possible in light of recent events, that it would not be exclusive to Xbox. Maybe a timed-exclusive at most. They realize that the 3D platforming fans stuck with Nintendo and we're still here, ready to buy a new Banjo game if it comes to our console.

It would be much easier and better for Microsoft to make a new game for their console and get you to buy that console.

You'd think that... but then why do they keep putting their games on other systems?

Because they are multiple years old and sold all the copies they could on PC and XBOX. It's their strategy to make more money intending to benefit no one else but themselves. These games are old Halo games, Cuphead, Castle Crashers, etc. Why aren't they games like Sea of Thieves or Battletoads or Bleeding Edge?

jd
Sat Aug 17 19 03:43am
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Is that the official explanation? ...or are you just guessing?

What other explanation is there? They're not deciding to do it out of "the kindness of their hearts".

The inability to provide other explanations doesn't mean one doesn't exist, and no they're not doing it out of kindness, but that doesn't mean they're doing it to "milk a few extra bucks off old games".

And then Nintendo fans would complain "Why isn't this game on Switch?" Why would they want to put games on consoles that aren't theirs other than games they can't sell on their own system anymore?

So what? What's the problem?

hawk
Fri Aug 16 19 06:54pm
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It's funny how what he's calling "inevitable" most of us were calling "impossible" only a while ago. But I guess that's what makes it so exciting. Makes you wonder what else they would consider to be inevitable, and we would never imagine.

GoNintendo: "Then, he told me of the significance."
Seavor: "It will be significant."

(No killing of dogs this time.)

Poor bloke seems to be utterly disenfranchised over Conker, if that final remark was any indication. Can't say I blame him after what Microsoft did to the character with "Young Conker" and the HoloLens.

And yes, it would stand to reason that a late '90s family-friendly platformer would have more reach than a raunchy one released quietly into the '00s, but I think he underestimates just how much love there still is for Conker, just as much as Banjo I'd reckon...

I didn’t know about this Young Conker thing, so I looked it up on YouTube. How sad. There are no words. Conker’s Bad Fur Day on N64 is a treasure the likes of which we may never see again in the gaming industry.

"Banja-Kazooie reveal"? :D

Microsoft could do a quick port of the Xbox remastered Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie versions for Switch and it would be a very lucrative port for them. Those games are already on Xbox and have likely sold all they’re gonna sell over there so they’d have nothing to lose porting the games to Switch.

That’d be perfect and something I could see them doing. Or a version of Rare Replay that includes only pre-Xbox Rare games (maybe add the DKC trilogy and DKC64?).

I think I’d rather just take the old games on Switch over a new Banjo game anyway. I’d be happy with a full remake of the first game (even if that were Xbox exclusive) but a new game would be hard to get right. Rare today aren’t the Rare that made BK and it’s those guys that made Banjo what it was. I could get behind Playtonic making a new one since they’re really more Rare than actual Rare and would have the budget required to make it good (I’m convinced budget and time is what made Yooka Laylee fall somewhat short) but otherwise I’d rather it just be left alone.

Yeah Yooka Laylee was promising but in the end felt more like a homebrew game. I agree it was likely down to budget.

Super Mario Odyssey showed that the 3D Platformer / Collectathon isn’t a dead genre and if Playtonic has the time and resources that Nintendo had they’d make an amazing Banjo-Threeie.

Btw - Nintendo wholly owns the DKC games. Rare has no say in them. DK64 is different I believe because Rare retained rights to the new Kong members introduced in that game.

What Chris doesn't know is I'm stil screeching about a Blast Corps 2 nearly two decades later.

And I will continue to do so.

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